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Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

I think Fitz and Simmons would be the most likely to appear in a movie at a future point since they could be shown working for Fury and no on-screen explanation would be needed about their background with Coulson and shield.
 
I think Fitz and Simmons would be the most likely to appear in a movie at a future point since they could be shown working for Fury and no on-screen explanation would be needed about their background with Coulson and shield.
Yeah, if Fitz and Simmons had been on the Helicarrier in Age of Ultron, just working at a console like anybody else, without any direct attention given to it, it wouldn't have been confusing to general audiences and been an added bonus for Agents of Shield fans.
 
Yeah, if Fitz and Simmons had been on the Helicarrier in Age of Ultron, just working at a console like anybody else, without any direct attention given to it, it wouldn't have been confusing to general audiences and been an added bonus for Agents of Shield fans.
But how would that have fit with TV show continuity? Fitz and Simmons weren't even working together anymore at that point, IIRC. And you would have had to explain on the show why they weren't around, and why Coulson kept the hellicarrier secret from everyone but them, etc.

The movies probably already cause enough headaches for the TV writers having to work around their events. They would only find it yet more difficult if the films were dictating what they had to do with their own characters, even to that limited extent.
 
Actually a better place for Simmons would have been one of the medics, either on the lifeboats, or back on the carrier. And Fitz probably wouldn't logically be on the bridge either, but down in the blister or something.
 
The point is, this sort of thing is neither a simple feat to pull off, nor one that would actually be mutually beneficial to the TV and screen writers even if it were feasible. It sounds like a little thing that wouldn't require much effort but the reason it doesn't happen is because it's really not.
 
Well, now that Tony is cut off from half the Avengers, and is acting more or less alone, I think we can all agree that the early fourth season would be a splendid time for Downey to guest star on an AoS, maybe even a double-parter with an Iron Man appearance, but if nothing else, a somewhat tense dialogue scene between him and Coulson. :bolian:
 
There's a knock at Coulson's door. He opens it. It's Captain America. "Quick! Hide me!"
 
The point is, this sort of thing is neither a simple feat to pull off, nor one that would actually be mutually beneficial to the TV and screen writers even if it were feasible. It sounds like a little thing that wouldn't require much effort but the reason it doesn't happen is because it's really not.
What is so hard any cast member except Clark Greg or Brett Dalton shows up at the set for a one day shoot as an Easter Egg cameo. They fit Stan Lee in
 
What is so hard any cast member except Clark Greg or Brett Dalton shows up at the set for a one day shoot as an Easter Egg cameo. They fit Stan Lee in

What's hard is that the movie would probably be filmed at least nine months before its release, while TV episodes are generally filmed maybe about two months before airing, give or take. So a TV character's cameo in a movie would restrict the TV writers' plans for that character for at least 6-7 months into the future. It wouldn't affect the movie much, no, but it could be a major continuity hassle for the TV writers, depending on what plans they had for that character. What if something unexpected happened in those intervening months, like, say, the actor has a skiing accident and has to have their cast and crutches written into the show, but then they show up simultaneously in a movie and they're running around nimbly? Or what if they get a haircut in the interim? And it completely straitjackets the writers in terms of that character's development, their ability to put that character through any major changes until the movie comes out. We saw how badly season 1 of AoS was hobbled by the impositions The Winter Soldier put on their storylines.

Sure, okay, in the digital era, movie editing is easy enough that a cameo of a character from the show could be filmed in post-production and dropped into the final cut just weeks before release. But the movie's makers would have to want to do that, and it doesn't seem like something they have much interest in doing. They're busy enough sorting out the million details they already have to contend with on their own movie, not to mention any necessary setup for future movies. Further imposition from the TV franchise would probably be an unwelcome distraction.
 
Well, now that Tony is cut off from half the Avengers, and is acting more or less alone, I think we can all agree that the early fourth season would be a splendid time for Downey to guest star on an AoS, maybe even a double-parter with an Iron Man appearance, but if nothing else, a somewhat tense dialogue scene between him and Coulson. :bolian:
Has anyone ever asked RDJ if he'd be willing to do one of the Marvel TV shows? I know Jeremy Renner wants his own Netflix show, and I think one or two of the others are open to appearing on AoS, but I can't remember if RDJ has ever been mentioned in relation to the shows. With the kind of pay days he gets for doing the movies, I have to wonder if he'd be willing to take a lower paying TV job.
 
^ Relevant, albeit in a jokey, non-serious context.

If Downey were to do an AoS appearance, it'd probably be as a favor to Clark Gregg/the show, not for the money, as he's already richer than God. And the show's producers might be reluctant to ask one of the main Avengers to show up if they wouldn't have the money to give them a proper action sequence, never mind their pay for showing up and doing a bit of talk. The network would want to hype such an appearance for maximum ratings, which would in turn up the pressure to make it a big, cool appearance, lest casual viewers complain about a letdown. Bit of a Catch-22, really.

The producers might also not have wanted to ask one of the Avengers to appear lest they be seen as dependent on the movies. Kinda like how Nimoy waited for TNG to be well-established and self-sufficient before making his appearance.
 
Yeah, the trouble with getting any of the big stars in is that you pretty much have to give them a big role, which means they're basically going to take over the whole show for the duration. Too small a role and it'd not be worth their time, too big and the regular cast gets squeezed out of their own show.

What they've already done with the likes of Sif, Fury & Hill is about as far as you can take it. Any more and it'd be more of a hindrance and more akin to a stunt and probably viewed as such. A bit random I know, but the idea always seems to put me in mind of this moment when an audience twigs who's up on stage. ;)
 
"Who told you I was alive?"
"Um...everyone."

"Tony said he sent you video of Fury's confession."
"I...missed that."
"Pity. Tony slugged Fury when he got to the part about keeping you in the dark about how you were revived. And that was in the video."
"Damn. I just yelled at Nick for a bit."
 
One thing they could have done, and this would have foreshadowed their Inhumans film assuming that's still going ahead, is that in the scene in CW where Tony visits Peter and asks him about how he's able to do the things he can do, he could have alluded to Peter being an inhuman. Nothing too specific just something along the lines of
"You're not one of those 'inhumans' everyone's talking about, are you?" I believe by the time that scene had been filmed, inhumans had made their debut on AoS so fans of that would have gotten a kick out of it.
 
Yeah, the trouble with getting any of the big stars in is that you pretty much have to give them a big role, which means they're basically going to take over the whole show for the duration. Too small a role and it'd not be worth their time, too big and the regular cast gets squeezed out of their own show.
Well, I specifically said now'd be a great time for a Tony cameo because he's the de facto leader of what's left of the Avengers, whereas Cap was more the operational leader before. And since he's probably still pissed over Cap not telling him what he knew about HYDRA killing his parents, now would be an equally potent moment for him to learn that Coulson's been hiding from him all this time also. The show could structure an episode around Coulson needing Tony's help for financing or building or finding something, and Downey and Gregg could shoot several dramatic scenes over the course of a day's shooting. Toss in an action B-story with the rest of the team, and the result could be one hell of an ep. :bolian:
 
They fit Stan Lee in
Stan Lee's cameos have ZERO implications or strings attached with respect to one another, as far as continuity goes.

One thing they could have done, and this would have foreshadowed their Inhumans film assuming that's still going ahead...
I think I've read that it is not, but I could be wrong about that.

...he could have alluded to Peter being an inhuman. Nothing too specific just something along the lines of "You're not one of those 'inhumans' everyone's talking about, are you?"
As I may have already pointed out a ways back, there is no reason why "everyone" would be talking about "Inhumans" by that name. According to AoS, it is an endonym by which that culture calls itself, and with which only those who have dealt with them specifically would be familiar, especially given that this culture is shown to value its secrecy so highly. In that sense, widespread use of the term at this juncture would actually contradict the TV show's continuity as much as bolster it. But we certainly have had reference in the recent films (both Ant-Man and Civil War) to the exponential explosion of powered individuals far and wide, which can no doubt be taken to include known Inhumans.
 
Stan Lee's cameos have ZERO implications or strings attached with respect to one another, as far as continuity goes.

As far as we know. I think there's an untold story about all these lookalike old men standing on the periphery of so many major events, in at least two different eras (and even across the multiverse!). Sure, I've heard the theory that he's Uatu the Watcher, but I don't buy it, because if he were Uatu, he'd be constantly going on about how he's absolutely forbidden to interfere in human affairs, just before doing something that interfered significantly in human affairs.


I think I've read that it is not, but I could be wrong about that.

The Inhumans movie has been bumped from its slot in Phase 3 and is not currently scheduled, but the official word is that it's a postponement, not a cancellation. At least, that's what they say.
 
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