So the trailer details are misdirection and/or to "spin up" the hardcore continuity ship fans???
After Trek 11 replace TOS 1701 with prequel Enterprise
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"I'm reasonably sure that Trek XI will be a decently polished looking film, but whether it will resonate in a positive manner in the right aspects is another question."
Translation: They must bow before the purists!
Nemesis, and Enterprise were such hits.
Will Spock be an emotionally red skinned Martian? Will James Kirk's middle initial be an R?
Star Trek XI is not A Reboot tm. :thumbsup:
The Five Stages of Grief:
1. Shock
2. denial
3. Volatile Reactions
4. Disorganization and despair
5. Reorganization
Translation: They must bow before the purists!
Nemesis, and Enterprise were such hits.
Will Spock be an emotionally red skinned Martian? Will James Kirk's middle initial be an R?
Star Trek XI is not A Reboot tm. :thumbsup:
The Five Stages of Grief:
1. Shock
2. denial
3. Volatile Reactions
4. Disorganization and despair
5. Reorganization
This is amusingly similar to what Charles Bermant of The Seattle Times defined the as "Five Stages of Spam." I wonder how many posts you will include this in before someone catches on to what you are doing.
Exactly.aridas sofia said:
This is amusingly similar to what Charles Bermant of The Seattle Times defined the as "Five Stages of Spam." I wonder how many posts you will include this in before someone catches on to what you are doing.
I'm also amused with those who qualify any dissent or question as a desire to retain '60s production standards and sensibilities. No one here is saying that has be such. But TPTB themselves have strongly inferred that Trek XI is a restart. As a so called TOS purist I actually don't have a problem with that and even think a restart is a reasonable move to sidestep fan criticisms in regards to continuity and to possibly entice a newer generation of potential fans.
Then they need to step up and admit it's a reboot and drop this song and dance about being "faithful/respectful of canon", because the Battlestar Enterprise in that trailer is proof that they're full of crap.
True. There are too many distinct differences in the ship we're seeing to accept it as a pre Cage Enterprise from TOS' continuity.
But you know I couldn't give a shit if they fess up or not. They've been full of crap for sooo long. Trek XI is no more of TOS' continuity than ENT was. I'll judge the project on its own merits and without worrying about whether it fits in with TOS.
Basically what Warped9 and the Captain said.
You forgot one:
5. Send flaming bags of human waste to Paramount
There's respectful to what has gone before and then there's duplicating. Respectful is a ship that echoes the original, as opposed to going some new direction and making something wholly new that looks nothing like the original and carries none of the hallmarks of that. And, as much as a fan of TOS as I am, if I were in Abram's position I wouldn't worry about making the continuity work except in the broadest sense. This isn't history, it's entertainment.
Do you want the female Starfleet officers be wearing minidresses?
That is a Canon Violation tm because in The Cage & Where No Man, women wore pants.
Star Trek XI: When Women Wore Pants :thumbsup:
That is a Canon Violation tm because in The Cage & Where No Man, women wore pants.
Star Trek XI: When Women Wore Pants :thumbsup:
If it's a restart then nothing they do is really a canon violation. They pick and choose what they want and adapt to present their own concept. ENT is a prime example.
Also the inclusion of Nimoy in the cast is nothing more than a sop to established fans. It doesn't cement Trek XI as canon in regards to TOS particularly when one considers everything else that is being changed. And there's precedent for this as well. Seeing Scotty in TNG's "Relics" establishes that Kirk was still considered alive when Scotty set out on the Jenolen, and yet in GEN Scotty believes Kirk is dead. A BIG inconsistency there I'd say.
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Of course, post-GENERATIONS and 1994 the most common fandom reply to that dilemma is that Scotty had temporary transporter-induced amnesia or a massive brainfart after being released from 75 years inside a transport buffer. Works for me!
Of course, post-GENERATIONS and 1994 the most common fandom reply to that dilemma is that Scotty had temporary transporter-induced amnesia or a massive brainfart after being released from 75 years inside a transport buffer. Works for me!
Without any flaming or being banned, does anyone accept that the alledged changes result from the timeline changes made during FC?
Then why was there no knowledge/references of Archer and the NX-01 in Kirk's era(besides it was filmed after)?
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