After TLJ, Is "Franchise Fatigue' now Plaguing Star Wars?

[BillJ]

This may be the first Star Wars movie I don't own on disc.

I'll probably buy it on streaming.

I have to have the disc, to go with the rest.

Plus, better quality.

 

[fireproof78]

Solo is not The Big Lebowski. Hell, it's not even Weekend At Bernie's.

Nor do we want it to be.

It's a good movie in its own right.

 

[Campe]

I have to have the disc, to go with the rest.

Plus, better quality.

I know. But space.

I am a completist, so we'll see what wins out in the end.

 

[fireproof78]

I know. But space.

I am a completist, so we'll see what wins out in the end.

I'm sure you'll find space.

Also, given the trend towards more streaming and rentals and the like, I'm surprised that there is a downplaying of those ways for people to watch Solo.

 

[starsuperion]

Mark Hamill said:



Frank Oz chimes in:



I'm not going to say that fans can't be unhappy. They obviously are and they have every right to be. But when two luminaries from Star Wars are suggesting the level of backlash is ridiculous, maybe we should believe them. (Cue those who will come in and say Hamill and Oz are being paid off, because CONSPIRACY!)

No but the so called luminaries do have a vested financial interest don't they? Or contractual obligations..so there is that.

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe we should all just watch the films and make up our own mind, rather than waiting for others to say the same thing?

 

[BillJ]

No but the so called luminaries do have a vested financial interest don't they? Or contractual obligations..so there is that.

Episode IX is getting made regardless, so they are still going to earn those paychecks either way.

 

[Kor]

This may be the first Star Wars movie I don't own on disc.

I'll probably buy it on streaming.

The first Star Wars movie that I don't own on disc is the 1978 holiday special.

Kor

 

[Campe]

The first Star Wars movie that I don't own on disc is the 1978 holiday special.

Kor

I actually own the Holiday Special on VHS.

 

[BillJ]

I actually own the Holiday Special on VHS.

I remember watching it when it originally aired. Haven't had the strength to watch it again.

 

[Campe]

I remember watching it when it originally aired. Haven't had the strength to watch it again.

I never said I watched the whole thing. I just own it. I got about 30 minutes in and just couldn't. I did watch the Boba Fett cartoon which was kinda cool. (But I no longer have a VCR, so...)

 

[CorporalCaptain]

What I want to know is when the Boba Fett cartoon "The Story of the Faithful Wookiee" will be special-editioned with Temuera Morrison's voice.

 

[DigificWriter]

"The Last Jedi" did good Box Office, based on the positive response of "The Force Awakens".

"Solo" is not doing good Box Office, based on the negative response to "The Last Jedi".

"The Last Jedi" was a crap film and "Solo" is paying the price. Rian Johnsons arrogant film really hurt the Brand.

"The Last Jedi" was a huge mistake. The best thing Episode 9 has going for it is the big break between its release, and "Solo". But who cares about episode 9 after "Last Jedi"? That Trilogy can't end in a satisfying way after what Rian Johnson did!

There is colossal irony in your username, because everything you said here is in fact wrong.

 

[Campe]

There is colossal irony in your username, because everything you said here is in fact wrong.

Or...

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[Mach5]

Scott Mendelson: Terrible Box Office For 'Solo' Is Great News For 'Star Wars'

Solo shows that you can’t just slap the words “Star Wars” on an otherwise generic sci-fi adventure movie and expected a big hit. More importantly, the first flop in Star Wars history is the one that reeked from the get-go of cynicism and crass nostalgia-driven exploitation.

The failure of Solo is a sign that audiences, be they Star Wars fans or casual moviegoers, want their big movies to be a little less run-of-the-mill. It’s good news for folks who want Star Wars movies that, well, explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations and boldly go where no Jedi has gone before.

He's right.

 

[fireproof78]

The failure of Solo is a sign that audiences, be they Star Wars fans or casual moviegoers, want their big movies to be a little less run-of-the-mill. It’s good news for folks who want Star Wars movies that, well, explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations and boldly go where no Jedi has gone before.

I feel like he is watching the wrong franchise.

 

[Kane_Steel]

*sing-song*
You can keep selectively pretending Feige didn’t answer to the Creative Comittee all you wa-ant...
But no else forgets that he was totally spent the previous 20 years producing Amazing Spider-Man, Blade Trinity, Punisher:War Zone, Elektra, Wolverine and the X-Men, the Fantatstic Four movies, Hulk, Man-thing, Spider-Man 3, and X-Men 3...
Beloved geek movies that totally didn’t almost kill some of their franchises, oooonne and allll...

(Seriously. Before checking, even I failed to realise just how spectacularly Feige managed to fail his way up. He’d only had three out-and-out successes before Iron Man, and one technically doesn’t even count.)

Your logic is flawed.

The films you listed are ones where he didn't have full creative control on.

With Marvel Studios, he's calling the shots on basically everything, especially now with Perlmutter sidelined.

For the films you listed, he was basically working under the control of others who had more power of the films' creative direction; ex: Avi Arad at Sony. Feige had to work himself up the ranks before Marvel Studios, but it can't be disputed that since he got to the top, Marvel Studios has basically had an unprecedented consistency of quality and success.

 

[JD]

Failure does not make a hero - or heroes - less heroic, aspirational, and inspirational.

If it did, Spider-Man would have lost all value as a character following "The Night Gwen Stacy Died".

If anything, I think seeing a hero fail, and move past that failure to do the right thing in the end is more inspirational than a hero who is always perfect and never screws up or fails.

And that's something that a lot of people don't get. A film's profitability doesn't end when a movie leaves a theater. There is so much life in a film after that. I recall having arguments with Fred Archer (the greatest fan of Star Trek ever!!!... who questioned choices and attacked every new thing to come out regarding this) regarding the profitability of the JJ films and he would constantly spout a formula he read somewhere from some "expert" not realizing how much the marketplace has changed.

Is this disappointing for Disney? Sure.
Is it going to drown them and will they fire anyone over this? Despite what the OP believes, probably not.

My marketing teacher in high school told us that the theatrical release for a movie is basically just a 2 hour commercial for the home video release.

 

[Trekkin]

Your logic is flawed.

The films you listed are ones where he didn't have full creative control on.

With Marvel Studios, he's calling the shots on basically everything, especially now with Perlmutter sidelined.

For the films you listed, he was basically working under the control of others who had more power of the films' creative direction; ex: Avi Arad at Sony. Feige had to work himself up the ranks before Marvel Studios, .

You’ve contradicted yourself in the space of two sentences, and my logic is flawed?

Feige’s previous movies were bad, because he was answering other people. Feige’s movies with Marvel are good because...he was still answering to other people!

And still does. In case you didn’t notice, Feige didn’t ‘restructure’ the Creatuve Committee himself. Hell, just ask Arad himself how much true creative control being the ‘top’ of Marvel Studios (and it’s founder) ultimately gets you.

(Spoilers, cos I’ve a feeling you don’t know anything about Arad other than ‘disagreed with Feige’: Arad’s tenure ‘at the top’ of Marvel ended with the people above him, telling him to bow to the wishes of those below. Which drove him out.)

It’s almost like...the concept of a single, visionary, all-controlling auteur is slightly full of shit. Especially when theyre working for ‘Disney: Reality’s Version of The Blob.’

but it can't be disputed that since he got to the top, Marvel Studios has basically had an unprecedented consistency of quality and success

1. Birth of a Nation and Gone with the Wind are two of the most successful films ever made. Still ain’t ‘diversity done right.’

2. I certainly can dispute the ‘consistent quality’ of individual Marvel films. And if I cant, then no one else is ever allowed to bitch about a Star Wars movie not named ‘Attack of the Clones’ either.

 

[DigificWriter]

it can't be disputed that since he got to the top, Marvel Studios has basically had an unprecedented consistency of quality and success.

Everything you just said here is wrong.

Marvel Studios movies make a shitload of money; that doesn't automatically make them quality films.

The last MS movie that I would truly call "quality" and that most people would agree with me on is Captain America: The Winter Soldier.