Advance screening/World Premiere discussions [the NO-SPOILERS version]

[urbandk]

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The water pipes are goofy. I don't know if that's meant to be engineering. I don't think it is, because it doesn't look at all like the Kelvin's engineering section. I think there's some ambiguity surrounding where those pipes are, except that they are somewhere in the bowels of the ship. There is another segment that is actually in engineering. I don't remember exactly what it looked like. There were some antimatter reactors.

 

[urbandk]

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no sista soulja moment from me on those pipes! still an Abrams' Trek apparatchik

 

[CordrazineOD]

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Don't compare how you think Eng should look with the new one. Consider the old version was lax in it's representations of that area. You've never seen or heard of how the ship stores/recycles it's water supplies and now you get that honor. That help?

Not in this case, no. And I'm among the first to support most of the visual artistic choices that these folks have made.

It helps a little, thanks. Story and characterization are paramount anyway. I won't quibble if the movie is still Trek at its core.

 

[SalvorHardin]

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Another review by Garth from Dark Horizons. (some spoilers but nothing too big )
It's probably the most critical review I've read so far, but still ...:

Easily set to be amongst the best films of the Summer, where it stands in the scheme of things a few years from now will be interesting to contemplate.

what is setup here shows such great potential that if Abrams direction and the current cast & mythology were to combine with a stronger story - it could be an achievement of "Spider-Man 2" or "The Dark Knight" caliber.

Most of the issues here are nitpicks and it simply can not be stated enough how effectively Abrams and his crew have revived and repositioned not just the franchise but the 'space opera' genre itself. After the painfully stilted "Star Wars" prequels and the last few lackluster 'Trek' films, this 'Trek' at last brings back a sense of fun adventure to the space epic which has not really been seen since the 80's. By the end of this film when the crew is in place, the cast has settled into their roles, and this once familiar universe now feels wide open and new - you can not help but be aching to go on another Trek - a feeling many of us Trekkers haven't felt in a long time.

full review here http://www.darkhorizons.com/reviews/911/Star-Trek/

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

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That's a tremendously encouraging review - particularly Franklin's echoing the observation of an earlier reviewer that the movie really goes beyond "revitalizing Star Trek" to injecting some new life into the whole space opera genre.

 

[shapeshifter]

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Perhaps people who've seen the movie can, without giving any spoilers, recommend OS episodes the movie made you think of while you viewed it?

 

[Captain Pike]

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Spider Man 2? It was ok I guess, but nothing stellar imo.

Then again, I don't think TDK was all it was cracked up to be either.

 

[Skywalker]

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I loved TDK. Spidey 2, not so much. I didn't like any of the Spider-Man films, really.

 

[urbandk]

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Perhaps people who've seen the movie can, without giving any spoilers, recommend OS episodes the movie made you think of while you viewed it?

maybe the menagerie. the tension between the characters made me think of that one, as well as pike, split loyalties, deception, moral message.

 

[Captain Pike]

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I loved TDK. Spidey 2, not so much. I didn't like any of the Spider-Man films, really.

Don't get me wrong - I didn't dislike it. It was ok. But personally I was more impressed by Iron Man and, dare I say it, The Incredible Hulk than by TDK.

 

[pookha]

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there are spoilers in the review and for some reason his spoiler code dosnt work.

Anthony has posted his spoiler free review over at Trekmovie...

Star Trek is amazing.

Interspersed with the cool space battles, corvette driving and sword fights, are a series of impactful character moments that prove that Orci and Kurtzman understand love this crew as much as we all do.

What is perhaps lacking in this film is a full understanding of Nero and his motivation beyond revenge. There are a couple of exposition moments, but definitely not long enough for Trek fans who want to be ‘fully briefed.’

In the end I believe that JJ Abrams and his team have done what they set out to do, which is to create a ‘realer’, more accessible and more action-oriented Star Trek for a new generation — while at the same time honoring the Star Trek that has come before it.

Is it the best Star Trek film ever? Possibly. In some aspects, there can be no doubt. The scale, the effects, the sound, and much more are at a level never before seen in Star Trek and on par with the best films of the day. Every Star Trek film gets compared to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, which is my favorite as it is with many other fans. It will take a few more viewings to make the final call, but for me, it is certainly in that top tier of great Star Trek films.

Full review at http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/12/trekmoviecom-review-of-jj-abrams-star-trek/

Promising review. But until reading this, I was convinced that the setting with the industrial pipes and tanks was Delta Vega or somewhere and NOT engineering. I know it's too trivial to make or break the movie, but that description of engineering sounds very hard to accept. Everything else production design-wise sounds/looks fine but it almost seems like a "stunt" to do something like that to engineering; it sounds so utterly inconsistent with accepted conventions. If engineering looked more like ENT or even the FTL drive room in BSG that would be cool, but this description sounds very inappropriate. I'm upset Someone talk me down, please.

i still think the scene with the person in the pipes is delta vega..

and yeah i would rather not enterprise engineering look like that there were pipes and valve covers in tos engineering..

no truth in beauty

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x05/theenemywithin166.jpg

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x05/theenemywithin167.jpg

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x05/theenemywithin201.jpg

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x20/Court_Martial_470.JPG
looks like pipes to me

 

[shapeshifter]

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Perhaps people who've seen the movie can, without giving any spoilers, recommend OS episodes the movie made you think of while you viewed it?

maybe the menagerie. the tension between the characters made me think of that one, as well as pike, split loyalties, deception, moral message.

Well, anyway, thanks for playing along.

 

[donners22]

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I was a little disturbed by the Garth Franklin review. A few select quotes:

retains the feel of Gene Roddenberry's universe albeit trimmed of some of the moral shadings and political allegories

JJ Abrams delivers a less cerebral, more adrenalin-fueled take on the voyages of the USS Enterprise.

if the Trek battles of old were very submarine-inspired, the ones here play out much more like aerial dogfights.

[Nero's] limited screen time and lack of development stand as the film's most obvious flaw.

Ben Cross as Sarek however plays Spock's dad as more of a grump than Mark Leonard who could so beautifully convey annoyance and disappointment purely through stance and body language

And I do not like the news of a certain song and product placement being in the film at all...

Don't get me wrong - it is a strongly positive review overall. It's just there are a few things that I regard as quite important which seem to be lacking in this film.

 

[pookha]

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well the first two comments really would depend on which episode of tos are we talking about.

 

[Praetor]

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Spock and Sarek also had something of a rather petty rivalry over a certain music competition that was cut from 'And The Children Shall Lead' IIRC.

Still, some of that feels a bit worrisome.

 

[Therin of Andor]

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Still, some of that feels a bit worrisome.

His narration is one of the best parts of the trailers.

 

[indranee]

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I was a little disturbed by the Garth Franklin review. A few select quotes:

retains the feel of Gene Roddenberry's universe albeit trimmed of some of the moral shadings and political allegories

JJ Abrams delivers a less cerebral, more adrenalin-fueled take on the voyages of the USS Enterprise.

[Nero's] limited screen time and lack of development stand as the film's most obvious flaw.

Ben Cross as Sarek however plays Spock's dad as more of a grump than Mark Leonard who could so beautifully convey annoyance and disappointment purely through stance and body language

And I do not like the news of a certain song and product placement being in the film at all...

Don't get me wrong - it is a strongly positive review overall. It's just there are a few things that I regard as quite important which seem to be lacking in this film.

people, isn't this supposed to be the no-spoiler thread?! I mean, come on, I've been assiduously avoiding the-thread-that-shall-not-be-mentioned as well as ALL spoilers in the RW (except that one BIG one I saw in an inadvertent drunken stupor last week). please, please do not speak of such things in here. go to the other one.

 

[Praetor]

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Still, some of that feels a bit worrisome.

His narration is one of the best parts of the trailers.

Oh, I should have been more clear: I didn't mean Ben Cross was worrisome, I meant the other comments.

 

[pookha]

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i am asking the mods just how they feel about the review.
overall i dont know how much real spoilers it has.
so much of it is stated in general terms .
we know from the voice over of the trailer we are getting sarek asking spock about his path in life.
we know there are space battles from the trailers.

 

[Akiraprise]

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If you're referring to those few select quotes from donners post then no I don't see a problem. Nothing spoiled there, really. I consider spoilers to be key plot points given away. Those are pretty general snippets. We don't learn anything new about the plot.