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"Admit it's a reboot!!!" Who cares, really.

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Hmmm. Kind of ironic you chose political colours. But they need switching around. Surely in the US, conservative Republican values are red? Change is down to the party in blue? ;)
 
I think there are enough casual fans, who don't post on message boards or take part in polls, who are gonna take one look at this turkey and stay away in droves.

I know that you're mistaken. :)

Are there enough casual fans to constitute a single drove, let alone more than one? :confused:

As long as the general public and moderate ST/sci-fi fans come, and word of mouth is good, ergo the movie does well, this "casual fan" will be happy indeed.
 
Oh my God I admit it! Please don't smite me with your words that pierce my soul!

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I think there are enough casual fans, who don't post on message boards or take part in polls, who are gonna take one look at this turkey and stay away in droves.

I know that you're mistaken. :)

Are there enough casual fans to constitute a single drove, let alone more than one? :confused:

Most people I know who like "Star Trek" are what you'd call "casual fans." And not one of fifty of them would ever have given a moment's thought to where the Enterprise was built. :lol:

A little incident: when I bought the Entertainment Weekly that featured Abrams' Trek movie the young woman who was cashiering at Borders got all excited about it - she said she was really looking forward to the movie. I remarked flippantly that it was nice that someone under the age of thirty even knew who these characters on the cover were and she said that she'd grown up with "Star Trek;" her father was a big fan and she'd been watching TOS and TNG her entire life.
 
I know that you're mistaken. :)

Are there enough casual fans to constitute a single drove, let alone more than one? :confused:

Most people I know who like "Star Trek" are what you'd call "casual fans." And not one of fifty of them would ever have given a moment's thought to where the Enterprise was built. :lol:

But surely, they would know, love and be angry that Captain April is not in the new movie ?
Right ? Right ? :klingon:


:p
 
It's in every ep of TOS, right next to the turbolift on the bridge on the ship's commissioning/dedication plaque. It gives her name, class, and place of commissioning: San Francisco, California.

What do I need to actually see this? I've been hearing about this for decades, and I've seen pictures, but what does it take to see it on my own TV? And can I see it from my chair, or will I have to walk right up to the screen?
 
Most people I know who like "Star Trek" are what you'd call "casual fans." And not one of fifty of them would ever have given a moment's thought to where the Enterprise was built. :lol:

Absolutely Right™

You know, I bet if we did a poll of this entire board - including fans of all five series - to see if they knew where the Enterprise was built, the number who thought the Enterprise was built at San Francisco would not be as high as the canon fetishists would have us believe.

And, as we all now know - the Enterprise was built in Iowa ;) :D
 
Does it really matter to anyone but the canonites that it's a reboot, remake, or any other re-word that you can come up with? It looks like a good movie, and in my book, that's all that's relevant. Hell, they could reimagine Captain Kirk as a virgin, midget Asian woman for all I care, so long as they made it entertaining. ;)

I guess this means I'm not a real fan, huh? :(
 
The whole "real fan" thing is just so totally suspect. I've been into Trek since the 70s. Is my opinion about a bunch of made up stuff less valid than someone who watched it first run? Is my opinion more valid than someone born after I was already an adult? Not really. We're all just voices in the wilderness, and apparently 80% of the voices want to see this movie.
 
IMO, the only reason JJ doesn't want to CALL it a "reboot" is because of the big stink over the Battlestar Galactica reboot. JJ didn't want an angry, VERY vocal group of fans carrying on for months and months about "continuing, NOT rebooting" and driving away the mainstream audience he hopes to attract.

Of course, he's gotten a modicum of that in any event...

:guffaw:

What stink? No one paid or pays attention to the old and tired Galactica diehards.

I suspect that the Trek diehards will be treated with similar disdain and disinterest.
 
Honestly, where do you get those informations that make you think that "Enterprise ISN"T built in Iowa" ? Did TOS TV series and movies confirms that? or it just come from a novel / data books / technical books or something?

It's in every ep of TOS, right next to the turbolift on the bridge on the ship's commissioning/dedication plaque. It gives her name, class, and place of commissioning: San Francisco, California.

That really gives us where the Enterprise was registered or its maiden voyage.

Not where it was built.

The Queen Elizabeth II was built in Clydebank but was registered in Southampton
 
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IMO, the only reason JJ doesn't want to CALL it a "reboot" is because of the big stink over the Battlestar Galactica reboot. JJ didn't want an angry, VERY vocal group of fans carrying on for months and months about "continuing, NOT rebooting" and driving away the mainstream audience he hopes to attract.

Of course, he's gotten a modicum of that in any event...

:guffaw:

What stink? No one paid or pays attention to the old and tired Galactica diehards.

Actually, the complaints about nuBSG paid a nice little publicity dividend for the producers, especially when series star James Edward Olmos stood up at a gathering of national entertainment press and urged the diehards not to watch the miniseries. :guffaw:

Might not even hurt "Star Trek" to have a few would-be admirals out walking a picket line in front of a movie theater or two in full "uniform."
 
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