Actors/characters/plots/ships/etc. you want to see in Star Trek XII?

[The Wormhole]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

More Barely Glimpsed Hottie (NuKyle, which I shall repeadetly call her until Kurtzman and Orci catch wind of it upon tha interwebs. If you're a Kyle fan, you better get your angry rant against Kurtzman and Orci ready now. *Maniacal laughter*)

Wouldn't NuLeslie make more sense? After all, Leslie is a name that can be used for men and women.

And yes, I am aware Leslie and Kyle are meant to be last names. I'm just trying to give my argument weak legs to stand on.

 

[Larraby]

Star Trek sequel needs to be original

TMP - Earth is threatened by V'ger

TWOK - Genesis could be used as a WMD

TVH - Earth is threatened by the alien probe

First Contact - History is changed and Earth society is destroyed

Nemesis: Thetaron radiation weapon is headed toward Earth

Star Trek - Earth is threatened by Red Matter

By my calculations, 6 of the 11 movies deal with the possible destruction of Earth. The sequel must have an original storyline instead of the tired old theme of planet Earth in peril.

 

[ThankQ]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

TMP - Earth is threatened by V'ger

TWOK - Genesis could be used as a WMD

TVH - Earth is threatened by the alien probe

First Contact - History is changed and Earth society is destroyed

Nemesis: Thetaron radiation weapon is headed toward Earth

Star Trek - Earth is threatened by Red Matter

By my calculations, 6 of the 11 movies deal with the possible destruction of Earth. The sequel must have an original storyline instead of the tired old theme of planet Earth in peril.

Don't forget that 24 eps of Enterprise were dedicated to the same theme.

I agree. Problem is, I think, is once you've gotten to the movie level of "save planet from destruction", is how do you go up from there?

 

[Islander]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

TMP - Earth is threatened by V'ger

TWOK - Genesis could be used as a WMD

TVH - Earth is threatened by the alien probe

First Contact - History is changed and Earth society is destroyed

Nemesis: Thetaron radiation weapon is headed toward Earth

Star Trek - Earth is threatened by Red Matter

By my calculations, 6 of the 11 movies deal with the possible destruction of Earth. The sequel must have an original storyline instead of the tired old theme of planet Earth in peril.

Don't forget that 24 eps of Enterprise were dedicated to the same theme.

I agree. Problem is, I think, is once you've gotten to the movie level of "save planet from destruction", is how do you go up from there?

Save quadrant? Save Galaxy? Save Universe? And why not go Die Hard with it by not only having to save everybody else, but the one you love but doesn't love you back too!

 

[ThankQ]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

TMP - Earth is threatened by V'ger

TWOK - Genesis could be used as a WMD

TVH - Earth is threatened by the alien probe

First Contact - History is changed and Earth society is destroyed

Nemesis: Thetaron radiation weapon is headed toward Earth

Star Trek - Earth is threatened by Red Matter

By my calculations, 6 of the 11 movies deal with the possible destruction of Earth. The sequel must have an original storyline instead of the tired old theme of planet Earth in peril.

Don't forget that 24 eps of Enterprise were dedicated to the same theme.

I agree. Problem is, I think, is once you've gotten to the movie level of "save planet from destruction", is how do you go up from there?

Save quadrant? Save Galaxy? Save Universe? And why not go Die Hard with it by not only having to save everybody else, but the one you love but doesn't love you back too!

Problem is, once you get too big, like save the galaxy, it becomes too abstract, and it's too hard to care.

 

[theFirebottle]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

Problem is, once you get too big, like save the galaxy, it becomes too abstract, and it's too hard to care.

Even saving or losing a planet is too abstract for most people to really comprehend, when you get down to it. I think there's some really low number at which people stop comprehending the death of others as people dying and start thinking of it as numbers dying. It may be as low as in the hundreds.

It really just depends on the skill of the writers to achieve the threat-escalation that seems necessary for sequels. A truly great writer could make saving a single sapient life as important and dramatic as an average writer would make saving six billion lives.

But I really wish writers would not skip ahead so quickly. They need to give themselves room to expand, rather than zooming to the top of the scale to appease whoever it is they're pitching their stories to. A film plot does demand a bigger, less complex threat than a TV plot, but "bigger" doesn't mean "biggest" right off the bat.

 

[urbandk]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

It really just depends on the skill of the writers to achieve the threat-escalation that seems necessary for sequels. A truly great writer could make saving a single sapient life as important and dramatic as an average writer would make saving six billion lives.

YES. EXACTLY. PRECISELY.

 

[EnsignRicky]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

Eddie Murphy as Khan.

 

[Jayson]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

Revenge and planet earth in peril has been played out. The question then is what are some other motivations that could be used. A few to that comes to mind

1 Trying to force religion towns peoples throats. I like this motivation but I wonder if Abrams would be able to do something that wouldn't offend alot of people in the audience.

2 Trying to return home. This idea I brought up in my Dominion thread. This is also sort of what Soran was doing. It's something I think could work if done right.

3Criminals on the run. How about criminals who have no real motivations beyond not getting caught and sent back to prision?

4 Speading a disease. You could sort of merge this idea with number 2 and 3 if you wanted.

5 Search for some sort of artifact or tech. Basically "Indiana Jones" in space. Kind of like this idea more for a trek show than a movie but I guess it could work.

Jason

 

[EnsignRicky]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

Well then we're pretty much down to outsmarting a Computer, outsmarting a God or outsmarting a Woman.

 

[theFirebottle]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

Well then we're pretty much down to outsmarting a Computer, outsmarting a God or outsmarting a Woman.

Maybe I said this in another thread, but I had an idea for a mother-daughter pair of captains set up as worthy antagonists to Kirk and the Enterprise. They would use their extensive tactical experience and a bit of strategic sleight of hand to leverage a technologically inferior fleet of ships against the Enterprise and bring the conflict to a stalemate...

I don't write fan fiction and I won't start now; this idea has been summarily stuffed back where it came from to be reworked as a component of my original space opera.

 

[cybersoldier]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

Im leaning towards the Doomsday machine but let it be a preview to an invasion and make it part a plan by a species we know like the breen or thoilans, and it could lead to a multi-arc war which could take a few films. I wouldnt mind the species to be seen but dax no

 

[ThankQ]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

Well then we're pretty much down to outsmarting a Computer, outsmarting a God or outsmarting a Woman.

Of the three, I think I have best shot with God.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

Brian Blessed as the leader of the Klingons.

"KIRK'S ALIIIIIIIVE?!"

"KAHLESS! FRESH HORSES!"

Brian Blessed IS a Klingon!

 

[NileQT87]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

I would say Chapel and Rand would make nice additions to get a few more key females into the picture. They did as much as Uhura in the original show.

Though, actually, Chapel is briefly seen in one of the McCoy scenes.

 

[skep155]

Re: Star Trek sequel needs to be original

TMP - Earth is threatened by V'ger

TWOK - Genesis could be used as a WMD

TVH - Earth is threatened by the alien probe

First Contact - History is changed and Earth society is destroyed

Nemesis: Thetaron radiation weapon is headed toward Earth

Star Trek - Earth is threatened by Red Matter

By my calculations, 6 of the 11 movies deal with the possible destruction of Earth. The sequel must have an original storyline instead of the tired old theme of planet Earth in peril.

Don't forget that 24 eps of Enterprise were dedicated to the same theme.

I agree. Problem is, I think, is once you've gotten to the movie level of "save planet from destruction", is how do you go up from there?

You lower the scale but make the loss or the motive more personal. How though? Either way i think the new movie should tackle some present political/societal themes and problems.

 

[skep155]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

I have an even better (if not more silly) idea.

Use the evil plan generator and let your imagination run wild.

http://www.darksites.com/evilplan.php

 

[Captrek]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

As long as we’re re-imagining, and not bound by the relationship Kirk and Spock had in the Prime timeline, how about continuing the Kirk-Spock tension developed in this film and create a Crimson Tide kind of scenario in the next? “This is not your father’s Star Trek” indeed.

 

[skep155]

Re: What actors / characters / plots do you want to see in Star Trek X

As has been mentioned before, the Vulcans attempting to work towards reunification with the Romulans would be interesting, the Romulans might feel under pressure to distance themselves from the destruction of Vulcan in order to avert a war, even to the extent that they might make diplomatic overtures to the Federation, similar to the way many of the Arab states did after 9/11.
The plot could deal with insiders on both sides trying to sabotage the process, although that would basically be a rehash of the Undiscovered Country so the plot would need to be changed a little. However i can imagine that any Federation arms contractors and the people who have gained power through constructing warships would feel the loss of influence through a Vulcan-Romulan reunification. Likewise you can imagine some less emotionally repressed vulcans wanting to make the Romulans pay. One of the subplots could be a rogue agent plotting attacks.

 

[starbuck]

Next film

Can the next film match this one , will it have to be a space battle/action type film to keep the people coming in ,or will it be more a trek film and be more like a tos epiosde.I'm a fan of star wars but those films pretty much followed each other shoot things space battle, blow up something big .Star trek is so much more just hope J.j does not turn out the same stuff.