The what? I don't even know who Caitilin Blackwood is......
Actor Noel Clarke accused of harrassment
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The what? I don't even know who Caitilin Blackwood is......
Young Amy Pond.
Oh......... They didn't did they, poor Matt Smith
Well they can go suck a lemon covered in sulfuric acid
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Actually it isn't illegal unless you intend for someone to see you and be caused harm and distress.
I think it's a reach to think that about JB but it's not impossible.
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Well as hysterical overreactions go it's certainly up there.
Of course we don't know if this is their decision or forced on them by the BBC.
You'll note the he makes sure to say that it was all intended in good fun in his apologies; presumably on the advice of his lawyer. (Gareth David-Lloyd used the same form of wording when defending him.)
Has anyone at the BBC acknowledged their role in ignoring/not holding Barrowman properly accountable for his actions? As with Noel Clarke, John Barrowman should be held accountable and punished for what they did but they were allowed to get away with it and while Barrowman is more an open secret, there needs to be open communication that you can report something and not have to be afraid that something won’t be done or won’t effect your career
Its not my concern to think of future projects that are now cancelled because of past behavior. However, if these things were handled in the right way then we could move on and wouldn’t be things cancelled years later. Its always going to be awkward and look bad
Its not my concern to think of future projects that are now cancelled because of past behavior. However, if these things were handled in the right way then we could move on and wouldn’t be things cancelled years later. Its always going to be awkward and look bad
How do you know they were not harmed or distressed?
As we know from many of the #metoo stories (and I acknowledge this is not the same thing) there's many reasons why people can be reluctant to come forward and complain about upsetting and inappropriate behaviour, so silence does not equal approval.
Girls and women are so often NOT believed that I think the default should change to believing them given statistics about male harassment and violence.
Well it's also about intent and I don't think that was his but yes, as I said, it certainly could be argued it was.
Well, that sucks.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the point in punishing someone for something that happened over a decade ago, and that he has already stopped and apologized for doing.
Honestly, I don't even see the point in Big Finish continuing with their Torchwood range at all without the involvement of John Barrowman.
But then how do you weed out the actual truthful stories from the rest?
I'm not even saying that what Barrowman did on set was/is comparable to most of these situations and I do understand what you mean but it can't be a blanket statement of 'well it happened a long time ago and he apologized so its fine.' If that was a good defense, then people that have done way worse would still be walking free and not in jail let alone losing a few jobs and a damaged rep.
Anyway, my whole point of my original post was that Barrowman should have been punished a long time ago for this and he wasn't,
So he's being punished right now does that make it better?
I guess I'm being misunderstood here. What Barrowman did was wrong. I think we all agree on that. He should have been punished. He wasn't. I don't feel bad for him that he is being punished now (especially since its a minor thing and he's already had a fine career.) The BBC just deciding to take action after the media exposes it again when they could have done something is not right and they get no praise from me on that.
Seems the last point is being ignored.