That's a grossly unfair generalization, and it has nothing to do with the question of canon, which is merely about category, not quality.
According to IDW, their comics are canon?
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That's a grossly unfair generalization, and it has nothing to do with the question of canon, which is merely about category, not quality.
I was replying to BillJ’s comment about stories. I am an avid comic book fan, but IDW’s stuff is drivel. And I will post my opinion of the matter whether it has to do with the topic of canon or not, thank you very much.
You didn't specify IDW's comics, though. You said "Comics stories are rarely good," which sounds like an indictment of all comics. If that wasn't what you meant, then you phrased it misleadingly and should try again. We can't read your thoughts, only your words.
I’m not particularly interested in what you thought I said. I’m rarely interested in conversing with you at all based on your condescending attitude which nobody seems to call you on. That is all I have to say about this.
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How odd. If you don't care whether other people understand you, why are you even talking to them? Isn't that the whole point of communication?
Soooooo.... not canon as per Lower Decks 3.06?
Well they can say so, doesn't make it so. Tie-in stuff like that is hardly ever canon, no matter the franchise.
And that's good so.
And that's good so.
All they say is this:
“Every comic we do is considered continuity,” said IDW Senior Editor Heather Antos. “We work closely with Paramount to keep things in track [with film/TV].” (emphasis added)
That doesn't make it canon. Period.
“Every comic we do is considered continuity,” said IDW Senior Editor Heather Antos. “We work closely with Paramount to keep things in track [with film/TV].” (emphasis added)
That doesn't make it canon. Period.
Trek comics have always been hit or miss, going all the way back to Gold Key.
And it makes it exactly the same as all other tie-ins.
Maybe it ends with Sisko going back into the wormhole, since we're falling right back into the "put all the toys back as you found them" school of tie-ins.Soooooo.... not canon as per Lower Decks 3.06?
From what I understand, the writers and artists at Gold Key never actually watched the show.
The early ones, yes, but later on, some of them were more familiar with it, and the comics got more authentic.
The creators of the British comic strips in the '60s were completely unfamiliar with the show, since it didn't air in the UK until 1969.
Well, if you're debating 'consistency with current continuity', the closest I can recall of that is DC's first Trek run. They tried rather hard to work within the parameters of what was going within the movies at that time. Heck, Mike Baron and Tom Sutton's Mirror Universe Saga from that run remains one of my favorite Trek comic stories to this day but no way it is 'canon'.
I rarely see comics based on any series/franchise as being canon. To me, they are on the low tier of such tie-in mediums, certainly below any novels that may be considered such and seldom if ever get recognized on-screen.
So if the stories are good, I'll enjoy them for what they are regardless of whether or not they ever get 'officially' recognized .
I rarely see comics based on any series/franchise as being canon. To me, they are on the low tier of such tie-in mediums, certainly below any novels that may be considered such and seldom if ever get recognized on-screen.
So if the stories are good, I'll enjoy them for what they are regardless of whether or not they ever get 'officially' recognized .
They tried, but it was an awkward fit. With ST III, the bit with the cadet asking if there'd be a memorial for Spock when they got back to Earth is hard to reconcile with the comics' continuity where it's already months since TWOK and they've been back to Earth more than once in the interim. And with ST IV, the discrepancy was even bigger. The story leading into the movie claimed that the Excelsior had kept the Klingon Bird of Prey in its shuttlebay the entire time, even though the Mirror Universe Saga had clearly and correctly shown that the BoP was way, way too big to fit in its shuttlebay, having to be towed behind it, tucked in beneath the secondary hull undercut.
Ultimately, continuity in fiction is an illusion, a pretense, just like everything else in a story. The goal in fiction is not to make something absolutely real, but just to make it feel convincing enough that you're willing to go along with it for the sake of the story. And sometimes that illusion is achieved well, but sometimes it's not as successful and the discrepancies stand out.
That is the point of stories after all.
It depends on the particular case. Canon is about authorship, not medium. The reason tie-ins are usually non-canonical is because they're usually by outside creators. But tie-ins can be canonical when they're written or supervised by the creators of the core canon, at least in cases where the core canon is no longer in production and there's no risk of contradiction. For instance, the DC Babylon 5 comics written or plotted by J. Michael Straczynski were canonical, and the post-series Buffy and Angel comics overseen by Joss Whedon are canonical, while the earlier comics and novels by outside creators were not. The comics based on The Orville, which are written by its co-showrunner David A. Goodman, are apparently regarded as "soft canon," considered to count provisionally unless the show should contradict them later.
