I think after several Abrams Trek movies with Kirk and Spock and original series characters, maybe they’ll bring back TNG. Except this TNG will be in the Abramsverse with younger actors playing Picard, Riker, Data and crew. Of the post-TOS Treks, I think TNG has the best chance of being remade since it was the most popular. Of course it will probably be a decade or so before this happens if they go the big screen/movie route, and it took a dozen years to get from TMP to TUC with the original cast.
Abramsverse TNG
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The next movie will be a TNG redo...
Butterfly effect. As the writers have said, destiny is generally guiding the new timeline in the same direction as the old one. Some things will happen near the same as before, some things won't happen at all. I have a feeling some incarnation of the mainstream universe's Enterprise-D and E crews will appear.
There were a ton of changes in the Mirror Universe between TOS and the TNG-era that differ greatly from the main universe and yet most of the counterparts of the same characters in the main universe are still around. I think the only counterpart of the DS9 characters that didn’t exist in the DS9 mirror-universe episodes was Jake Sisko. IIRC, the Terran empire collapsed and was conquered decades before the TNG era and mirror- Ben Sisko, O’Brien and other mirror-human counterparts grew up as slaves to the Klingons and Cardassians, a life markedly different than the Federation Trek in the main universe. It’s a lot more likely characters from TNG will show up in the Abramsverse than DS9 or Voyager, since TNG was the most popular Trek after TOS. At some point Paramont may want to revive TNG in the Abrams-timeline after several 23rd Trek movies and main universe TNG-era is no longer fresh to the general audience.
The other night the history channel ran a Trek-themed show, and a big part of it involved that huge auction a while back, where it seemed CBS was divesting itself of each and every thing they had stored that was Trek-connected. The filming models of Enterprise (take your pick which one), Voyager, uniforms, props, etc. (Patrick Stewart said he nearly bid on Picard's desk.)
WHY did CBS do this?
Simple.
They've cut the ties with what came before. They have NO interest whatsoever in previous versions of Trek, except to make money off them by running them on TV and selling stuff. They do NOT want to add to that universe.
Now we see a whole new version of the TOS world/era. Some things look similar but for the most part EVERYTHING is different.
It's possible NO future version of Trek will be like any of the spin-offs we had before.
If they WERE to go a route similar to TNG, it might be only 30 years after Kirk and Spock, or it might be TWO centuries later. I suspect there's little chance we'll see another version of TNG or any of the others. They don't have to do that to move beyond Kirk and Spock.
They can go anywhere. They're not tied to what Roddenberry and the B&B boys did.
WHY did CBS do this?
Simple.
They've cut the ties with what came before. They have NO interest whatsoever in previous versions of Trek, except to make money off them by running them on TV and selling stuff. They do NOT want to add to that universe.
Now we see a whole new version of the TOS world/era. Some things look similar but for the most part EVERYTHING is different.
It's possible NO future version of Trek will be like any of the spin-offs we had before.
If they WERE to go a route similar to TNG, it might be only 30 years after Kirk and Spock, or it might be TWO centuries later. I suspect there's little chance we'll see another version of TNG or any of the others. They don't have to do that to move beyond Kirk and Spock.
They can go anywhere. They're not tied to what Roddenberry and the B&B boys did.
I' sure that's the tack Abrams and crew will take, but I don't buy it. All the mirror universe shows after the first one seemed implausible and silly anyway. I hate the idea of "destiny" keeping things similar. What does that actually mean anyway?
Really nothing. But it makes things sound cool and important.
I`m pretty sure the idea is that most of the tng, ds9 and voyager stuff still applies. I think in this case, paramount`s line on the issue is probably "nothing in the tng-era will ahve changed much unless we blatantly says it has". This would be so they can sell tng era box sets and so they can carry on releasing tng-era novels.
If they hadn`t cared about whether tng-era stuff still applies I`m pretty sure they either would have said so or they would have gone even further in the new movie with wild stuff that would contradict and nullify elements of tng. They didn`t because they obviouly want to keep tng as another source of revenue (dvd, games books etc)
I personally expect that they are also doing this so that if the new movie franchise eventually loses its hype after a couple of sequels then they can just put out a new exciting series of tv adventures with a new crew set say 20 years after nemesis and not have to explain what has happened since the abrams classic movies because all the tng/ds9/voy is still roughly canon.
I think thats the reason for the way they have crafted the storyline. So that if they decide to go back to the far future of the dominion, borg and kazon they don`t have to start from scratch introudcing the aliens again and setting up what happened since kirk`s time. They can just say "go wacth the boxsets tng through to voy" and get on with a new tv series.
If they hadn`t cared about whether tng-era stuff still applies I`m pretty sure they either would have said so or they would have gone even further in the new movie with wild stuff that would contradict and nullify elements of tng. They didn`t because they obviouly want to keep tng as another source of revenue (dvd, games books etc)
I personally expect that they are also doing this so that if the new movie franchise eventually loses its hype after a couple of sequels then they can just put out a new exciting series of tv adventures with a new crew set say 20 years after nemesis and not have to explain what has happened since the abrams classic movies because all the tng/ds9/voy is still roughly canon.
I think thats the reason for the way they have crafted the storyline. So that if they decide to go back to the far future of the dominion, borg and kazon they don`t have to start from scratch introudcing the aliens again and setting up what happened since kirk`s time. They can just say "go wacth the boxsets tng through to voy" and get on with a new tv series.
as others have said, anything from the original series onwards is probably altered greatly with the planet destroyed, how do we know Tuvok will exist to serve on the Excelsior when Sulu was in command. Or the fact that Chekov is younger than he was in the original series, he was supposed to be 22, now he's 17. But yeah they could do a TNG, but it would be probably a lot different to how we saw the original TNG as characters would be different, the whole butterfly effect should in theory changed everything
I think it would be more likely that this idea would be explored in books. You can do just about anything in the books. I wouldn't be surprised to see a series of Adamsverse books. And some will eventually explore the altered TNG era. I think we will still get books set in the old timeline though.
If Abrams were to do something taking place after the Spock/Kirk era, I think I'd actually prefer to see a series with consisting entirely of new characters. To me, the whole point of this second Trek universe was to open up new venues of storytelling, and I don't think they're going to do that by sticking to alternate versions of stuff they've already done.
TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, regardless of their individual merits are all quite dead. TNG buried itself over the years with its own movie series, the other three were never really that popular to begin with.
The reason this TOS reboot is succeeding is because Kirk/Spock/McCoy are far more ingrained in popular culture than the others combined. Also, Star Trek VI was a pretty long time ago, and was fairly successful.
Where TOS built up into something bigger than it's original run through reruns, TNG was popular to begin with, and waned over the years. It's not coming back.
I really don't think any Trek TV show makes much sense at the moment. For it to really capitalize on the success of the movie, it would have to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy, which they can't do because those are the movie guys. I would think any other spin-off would have the exact same problems as other sci-fi TV, that is, there just isn't much of an audience for weekly space opera stuff. Big budget space shoot-em ups work much better, so that's what we're going to get for the foreseeable future.
The reason this TOS reboot is succeeding is because Kirk/Spock/McCoy are far more ingrained in popular culture than the others combined. Also, Star Trek VI was a pretty long time ago, and was fairly successful.
Where TOS built up into something bigger than it's original run through reruns, TNG was popular to begin with, and waned over the years. It's not coming back.
I really don't think any Trek TV show makes much sense at the moment. For it to really capitalize on the success of the movie, it would have to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy, which they can't do because those are the movie guys. I would think any other spin-off would have the exact same problems as other sci-fi TV, that is, there just isn't much of an audience for weekly space opera stuff. Big budget space shoot-em ups work much better, so that's what we're going to get for the foreseeable future.
^ This.
Which is why I think at most they're doing a cartoon series. No sets to build store. No worries about fat actors. Hand-drawn or CGI a toon is Treks best bet on the small screen.
Which is why I think at most they're doing a cartoon series. No sets to build store. No worries about fat actors. Hand-drawn or CGI a toon is Treks best bet on the small screen.
yeah to be honest as others have said maybe a cartoon series or novels, following on from this rather than a series. I do think we will see Star Trek back on the TV sooner rather than later, but my personal feeling is it will be either a new crew or the current cast from this film if they were able to reach a deal, perhaps another movie and then series
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they even have photo mockups!
this one was funny:
http://www.neonbubble.com/article/star-trek-the-next-generation-recast
http://friendfeed.com/veronicabelmont/81cd8a7a/just-for-fun-let-imagine-what-it-would-be-like-if
Star Trek: The Next Generation: Recast
11 May 2009
they even have photo mockups!
this one was funny:
http://www.neonbubble.com/article/star-trek-the-next-generation-recast
http://friendfeed.com/veronicabelmont/81cd8a7a/just-for-fun-let-imagine-what-it-would-be-like-if
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