Anyone know how the events depicted will affect the Trek novel universe?
My apologies if this has been answered already.
My apologies if this has been answered already.
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Ummmm, Spock Prime vanishes from Romulus in the nick of time. Romulus is doomed. But the "current" novel timeline isn't there yet.
That's it.
I imagine future novels will also take the opportunity to seed some Easter eggs, such as references to the Kelvin, Captain Robeau, Kirk's relatives, etc, just as post-"Nemesis" novels began describing Remans to match their onscreen appearance in that movie (and in ENT).
The events of the movie created an alternate timeline but left the original timeline unaltered. Therefore, Pocket will continue to publish fiction set in the pre-existing Trek universe, but will also publish books set in the Abramsverse. Four Abramsverse novels will be published from May to September of 2010: Refugees by Alan Dean Foster, Seek a Newer World by me, More Beautiful Than Death by David Mack, and a fourth (title to be announced) by Greg Cox.
The destruction of Romulus in 2387 is part of the original timeline, so the 24th-century books will presumably deal with it once they catch up to that year; however, they're currently in 2381 and it may be a long time before they catch up.
Yeah, I figured as much. The new film is an alt timeline on it's own continuum so it's off doing it's own thing. But significant events were depicted in the film as well as the prequel comic (anyone know if this will be incorporated, like Data's resurrection and his assuming the captainancy of the E?).
Romulus' destruction, Spock's disappearance, etc...I was just wondering if there were plans in the novels to address these.
PS. Christopher, LOVE your books. Ex Machina and Torrent Sea are probably my favs of yours. I love your working various bits of Trek lore throughout your narratives, very skillfully.
Kudos, sir.
Kudos, sir.
Hard to say, but I expect not. The books and comics are pretty much independent of each other. Nothing in Countdown that isn't in the film itself is binding on the novels. And if the books did catch up with 2387 and incorporate Countdown, it would pretty much be the end of TNG as a series, since Picard, Worf, and Geordi would all have gone their separate ways and Beverly would've probably gone off with Picard. Since the books are able to take things in a different direction, I would expect them to do so, in order to keep TNG viable as an ongoing series.
As far as I know, nothing is currently planned that far ahead. Any future project that is set in 2387 or after would have to acknowledge those events, but beyond that, it's way too early to say anything.
Thanks!
By the time Pocket books gets to 2387, it is conceivable that there will be another Star Trek series on television which, for a new generation of viewers, might make it financially viable to allow the TNG novel series to come to an end by following Countdown, and let the TNG slots be filled by novels for the new series, thus keeping things fresh.
After all, 2387 is 23 in-universe years and it isn't really plausible for people to still be there. Picard may believe that after 22 years in command of the Stargazer, a 9 year gap, and then 23 in command of two Enterprises, it's time to retire, especially since he has a least one child growing up and he is getting older, perhaps starting to suffer from Irumodic syndrome.
But who knows.
After all, 2387 is 23 in-universe years and it isn't really plausible for people to still be there. Picard may believe that after 22 years in command of the Stargazer, a 9 year gap, and then 23 in command of two Enterprises, it's time to retire, especially since he has a least one child growing up and he is getting older, perhaps starting to suffer from Irumodic syndrome.
But who knows.
Except there aren't any "slots" reserved for any given series. The ratio of series in any given year is unique. And why would it be desirable to end TNG? No other book series based on a show has ever been ended. If there were a new TV series, it would just be added alongside the rest, just as every other new series was.
Not to mention the fact that TNG has always been one of the two most popular Star Trek TV series. If TOS can last more than 40 years, there's no reason TNG won't.
I was referring to any slots which might be given over to TNG. Much as I enjoy reading the TNG books, and I've mentioned this before, I am not happy with the direction the post-Nemesis books have gone, with the exception of the Titan series. I would like the galaxy to be safe from some creatures trying to destroy it and get back to exploring which we have seen precious little of in TNG. At least Voyager is now, that's something.
I am hoping that at least the four Abramsverse books coming might have an Enterprise actually doing some exploring.
I have no idea what you mean by that.
Uhh, that's all over now. Not only has the Borg threat been permanently neutralized in the books, but we already know of two post-Destiny TNG novels that aren't about anyone trying to destroy the galaxy -- Losing the Peace, which is about rebuilding, and Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony at the start of 2011, which according to Memory Alpha involves "a conference between the Federation, its allies, and the Pact." Okay, so the focus is on politics and diplomacy rather than exploration, but that was often the case in TNG on television. But it's not about destruction anymore. And there's certainly no reason to believe there won't be any future TNG novels dealing with exploration. The TNG novels you're unhappy with were edited by Margaret Clark, who is no longer employed by Pocket. That means you can't assume the past pattern of the novels will determine their future.
Mine certainly does.
A few, yes -- but as a permanent thing? At that point it's not TNG anymore, it's a Picard/Beverly book over here and a Worf book over there and a Geordi book over somewhere else and so on. I just don't see any reason why that would be desirable. Countdown did that because it was intended to be a transitional piece between the old Trek and the new, to put closure on the 24th century before going back and resetting the 23rd. Showing the TNG crew finally breaking up and going their separate ways served that purpose. But the books aren't putting any kind of closure on the 24th century; they're going to continue telling 24th-century stories for as long as Pocket holds the license. So there's no reason why they should emulate the choices made by Countdown, and it would be better for the books, given their different goals and circumstances, to make a different set of choices.
Christopher said:
To MA caretakers: This really isn't an accurate description of Paths of Disharmony. Close, but not quite. If someone wants to contact me directly, I'll be happy to provide a teaser of comparable length/detail to go with the MA (and MB?) entry.
We now return you to your thread, already in progress.
i'd rather the books didn't destroy Romulus and shuffle off Spock. That's not Spock-Prime. It's Spock from Universe 23947. Romulus is still intact, although the nova happened, it didn't completely defy the laws of physics to threaten the ENTIRE GALAXY!!!!!!!
Not overtly. The job of these books is to tell entertaining adventure stories set in the new timeline, not to engage in apologism, attempts to "fix" the movie timeline, or elaborate digressions on continuity or technobabble. They're designed to be accessible to new readers who were brought into fandom by the movie and may not have seen any other Trek. So the goal is to present the new timeline at face value.
That said, I can't speak for any of the others, but I think that people who read my Abramsverse book will come away with a better understanding of various things from the movie. The novel builds on a few of the character threads from the movie, and there are some subtle continuity and background references that hopefully will satisfy those who are interested in such things without distracting those who aren't.
A large enough hypernova could threaten a sizable chunk of the Alpha Quadrant.
However, I chose to interpret that line as meaning it was a catastrophe of sufficient scale to threaten the political stability of the galaxy.
Christopher, my comment regarding slots refers to the monthly book slots and while I am well aware that there is no set slot in any given month for any given series, it was my intention to suggest that any series VI novel might conceivably replace the TNG books in the monthly line-up were the TNG novels to cease production.
I have read Bill's Losing The Peace and yes I look forward to Paths of Disharmony, but I would still like to see more exploration in Trek. I know it won't happen though, for quite some time, since our heroes have to clear up the mess left by the Borg invasion. My hopes rest on the Abramsverse, Voyager and Titan for that, but I am still buying and reading and enjoying the books.
After all, one can't have a complete collection without them.
I have read Bill's Losing The Peace and yes I look forward to Paths of Disharmony, but I would still like to see more exploration in Trek. I know it won't happen though, for quite some time, since our heroes have to clear up the mess left by the Borg invasion. My hopes rest on the Abramsverse, Voyager and Titan for that, but I am still buying and reading and enjoying the books.
After all, one can't have a complete collection without them.
Uuummmm, nope. The older Spock we saw in ST09 was the same Spock we saw in "The Cage," "Where No Man Has Gone Before," TOS, the TOS films, and "Unification, Parts I & II."
And Romulus went bye-bye.
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