A way the new bridge look could fit into existing Trek canon....

[The Rock]

I have an idea. Tell me what you think.

What if at the end of the movie, after some huge battle with the Enterprise being heavily damaged, they show her being repaired at space dock, and they show quick glimpses of the bridge being repaired. And in these glimpses, you can clearly see the bridge being redesigned into something looking a bit closer to the bridge we all know from the original show.

Now, assuming this movie is just the first in a series starring this cast and crew, maybe for each consecutive movie we see the bridge and other parts of the Enterprise being redesigned more and more to something resembling the TOS look.

Then in the last movie starring this cast, in the very last shot in that movie, we see the bridge and every other part of the Enterprise looking pretty damn close to how it looked in TOS.

What would you think if they did it like this?

 

[Red Ranger]

Austin: Sounds nice, but I think it won't happen. Since this is esssentially both a prequel and reboot, some minor things like making the bridge look as it did in TOS are probably low priorities for the production team. After all, they altered the uniforms, but made them similar enough to evoke feelings of nostalgia among older TOS fans. -- RR

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Re: Here's how the new bridge look could fit into existing Trek canon.

1) Those pictures you've seen? It is the bridge. It is really the new bridge. That is what it's gonna look like. For real. It's going to look like that in the beginning of the movie, it's going to look like that at the end of the movie, and if there are sequels, it will probably look very similar to what we've seen. That is the bridge.

2) To be perfectly clear: the scenario you're describing will not happen.

3) To answer your question: I would hate it if your idea came to pass. It sounds contrived, unnecessary, needlessly nostalgic, and more than a little bit anal. I'm not saying you shouldn't entertain those kinds of ideas, but I certainly hope that professional filmmakers don't.

4) That is the bridge.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Austin: Sounds nice, but I think it won't happen. Since this is esssentially both a prequel and reboot, some minor things like making the bridge look as it did in TOS are probably low priorities for the production team. After all, they altered the uniforms, but made them similar enough to evoke feelings of nostalgia among older TOS fans. -- RR

Agreed..the bridge set is proof positive, to me at least, that they are rebooting the universe from the moment it goes back into the past.

Rob

 

[StCoop]

Why is it so hard for some people just to accept that a $150m film made in 2008 isn't going to look like a TV series from the 1960's?

 

[JoeZhang]

Sounds a bad idea. The visual are different because this film is being made in 2008, I would literally eat my hat if *any* explanation is made to the change being different from the original one.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What you're basically saying - and you're right - is that the current set design is so different from the familiar TOS one that the only way to reconcile it is to simply get rid of it at the end of the movie.

That's almost certainly not going to happen.

OTOH, it's possible that the bridge will look a little different in any sequels simply because such adjustments are so often made in these films over time. The bridge set used in the TOS-based movies changed some between every single film.

 

[The Rock]

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Why is it so hard for some people just to accept that a $150m film made in 2008 isn't going to look like a TV series from the 1960's?

Well it's not that. Truthfully, if it's going to be a complete reboot I don't mind that at all. Just as long as it remains true to the spirit of Star Trek, I am fine with that. Hell, the TNG era is my favorite Trek era. I'm not even that big of a fan of TOS (even though I love its characters and its movies). But what I'm saying is if this somehow fits into the continuity of pre-existing Trek, then this could be a way. I'm not even sure if it's a good idea. It was just an idea.

 

[Bill Morris]

We knew the bridge was going to be different from the TOS bridge. What I was expecting was original layout, all sharp corners rounded, and touch controls similar to those on the Ent-B but with VOY LCARS colors instead of heavy blue and green. That's what the little glimpse of a console in the teaser photo of Abrams sitting on the bridge working with a laptop seemed to imply. There was one leaked picture several months ago of the interior of a shuttle, however, that showed a little of a computer display something like that in the new bridge shot.

 

[T'Cal]

Re: Here's how the new bridge look could fit into existing Trek canon.

1) Those pictures you've seen? It is the bridge. It is really the new bridge. That is what it's gonna look like. For real. It's going to look like that in the beginning of the movie, it's going to look like that at the end of the movie, and if there are sequels, it will probably look very similar to what we've seen. That is the bridge.

2) To be perfectly clear: the scenario you're describing will not happen.

3) To answer your question: I would hate it if your idea came to pass. It sounds contrived, unnecessary, needlessly nostalgic, and more than a little bit anal. I'm not saying you shouldn't entertain those kinds of ideas, but I certainly hope that professional filmmakers don't.

4) That is the bridge.

Are you sure? Maybe that's not the Enterprise.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Re: Here's how the new bridge look could fit into existing Trek canon.

Are you sure? Maybe that's not the Enterprise.

Did I say it was?

No, you're right, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that the set design is going to look similar to what we've seen so far.

 

[Guartho]

For the next 20-30 years we'll treat it like "That's what the bridge always looked like, they just couldn't do it that way in the 60's because of budget reasons." Then a spin-off series will do a time-travel episode and make a joke "It is the Enterprise bridge. We do not discuss it with outsiders." Several years after that another spin-off series will do a two-parter that explains the drastic bridge change in much the same way you did in the original post.

 

[USS Excelsior]

For the next 20-30 years we'll treat it like "That's what the bridge always looked like, they just couldn't do it that way in the 60's because of budget reasons." Then a spin-off series will do a time-travel episode and make a joke "It is the Enterprise bridge. We do not discuss it with outsiders." Several years after that another spin-off series will do a two-parter that explains the drastic bridge change in much the same way you did in the original post.

That pretty much hits the nail on the head! This thread can now be closed.

And when we see the movie the same explanation can be given for the different bridge sounds while we're at it.

 

[Dar70]

I have an idea. Tell me what you think.

What if at the end of the movie, after some huge battle with the Enterprise being heavily damaged, they show her being repaired at space dock, and they show quick glimpses of the bridge being repaired. And in these glimpses, you can clearly see the bridge being redesigned into something looking a bit closer to the bridge we all know from the original show.

Now, assuming this movie is just the first in a series starring this cast and crew, maybe for each consecutive movie we see the bridge and other parts of the Enterprise being redesigned more and more to something resembling the TOS look.

Then in the last movie starring this cast, in the very last shot in that movie, we see the bridge and every other part of the Enterprise looking pretty damn close to how it looked in TOS.

What would you think if they did it like this?

It just wouldnt work. I mean how would you explain Pikes almost exact bridge design to Kirks in TOS. It wouldnt make sense to say the bridge went from TOS-Pikes to movie-Pikes and than to TOS-Kirks which is similar to TOS-Pikes. How would you explain that???? It would just cause more problems than solve.

Again I think the best thing to do is not worry that the visuals dont match up. I mean come on we knew they werent going to. Just hope the story fits into regualr Trek continuity.

 

[God Magnus]

As I recall, bridge modules were made to be swapped out with new ones whenever needed. Sure this bridge doesn't look exactly like the old one, but why should it? I expect by the "era of Kirk" the bridge just gets swapped out with another module and voila, 60's technicolor cardboard baby!

 

[M'Sharak]

Austin: Sounds nice, but I think it won't happen. Since this is esssentially both a prequel and reboot, some minor things like making the bridge look as it did in TOS are probably low priorities for the production team. After all, they altered the uniforms, but made them similar enough to evoke feelings of nostalgia among older TOS fans. -- RR

Agreed..the bridge set is proof positive, to me at least, that they are rebooting the universe from the moment it goes back into the past.

It sounds all too easy, when you put it like that. You mean that if I came to your house and rearranged the furniture in your living room and hung up different stuff on the walls, I would have rebooted your universe?

There could be much amusement in this.

 

[Baldus885]

I have an idea. Tell me what you think.

What if at the end of the movie, after some huge battle with the Enterprise being heavily damaged, they show her being repaired at space dock, and they show quick glimpses of the bridge being repaired. And in these glimpses, you can clearly see the bridge being redesigned into something looking a bit closer to the bridge we all know from the original show.

Now, assuming this movie is just the first in a series starring this cast and crew, maybe for each consecutive movie we see the bridge and other parts of the Enterprise being redesigned more and more to something resembling the TOS look.

Then in the last movie starring this cast, in the very last shot in that movie, we see the bridge and every other part of the Enterprise looking pretty damn close to how it looked in TOS.

What would you think if they did it like this?

I'd rather they didn't make the movie at all than try and shoehorn in a contrived excuse for the bridge looking different to 1960's plywood and blinky lights.

This is the bridge. It's different to the TOS bridge, just like the one in TMP was; just like Stellar Cartgraphy in Generations was different to the TNG one, etc etc. Trying to cover it up with refits and storylines is just pointless.

 

[Icy_Penguigo]

It's a reboot, a reimagining, whatever the hell you want to call it. It's made by different people. It looks different. Accept it. Why is everyone so hung up on explaining the differences in bridge appearances? The TOS bridge and this new bridge couldn't possibly fit into the same continuity. Just accept it.

 

[elric428]

The bridge will look different because history will be changed due to the time travel plot. The bridge will remain that way because this story will not involve a reset button making things the way they were. Spock will be successful in his mission but not completely. The cost will be a slightly different looking future then the one he knew.

 

[Icy_Penguigo]

The bridge will look different because history will be changed due to the time travel plot. The bridge will remain that way because this story will not involve a reset button making things the way they were. Spock will be successful in his mission but not completely. The cost will be a slightly different looking future then the one he knew.

I hope not. I really, really hope not. That seems like the last thing they'd want to do if they want this to be accessible to the general movie-going public. Explaining changes in the timeline from the "real" TOS? Ew.