A Tom Paris >= Nicholas Locarno Query

[where'sSaavik?]

O'Brien was in Encounter at Farpoint.

He predates the LAST administration.

But he wasn't O'Brien. He is listed in the credits simply as "Conn officer," and Colm Meany has said that the script described his character as "ND" -- "non-descript." A few episodes later, Meaney shows up as a security guard. There was no Chief O'Brien until season two's "The Child." "All Good Things" retroactively made the Farpoint character O'Brien, but no one created a character called O'Brien for Meaney to play until season two.

I think that in retrospect we chalk that up to continuity errors. There were enough weird costume irregularities in TNG's early years that the writers can claim that it was the same character, even if it really wasn't.

Hell, it took a few seasons before the costume department decided what rank Tuvok was on Voyager.

As for Tom, I wish that he had been that character from "The First Duty," because his backstory, which beyond being vaguely referenced, was never fleshed out sufficiently. I liked the character, but he was never more than just affable guy who's a pilot.

 

[CoveTom]

Nick Lacarno was created by an independant writer, so royalities from that characters continued use in the series has to be paid out when the character is used in a story outside that writers story. O'Brien had to be created by a staff writer at Paramount or Berman himself for him to be spun off into another series.

Wait... wasn't Locarno created by Naren Shakar? And wasn't he a staff writer? If I'm not mistaken, he's even the one who Kira's Shakar Resistance Cell was named after.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It all depends on the nature of his contract.

Or maybe he got the staff Job after/later on?

 

[Anwar]

Nick Lacarno was created by an independant writer, so royalities from that characters continued use in the series has to be paid out when the character is used in a story outside that writers story. O'Brien had to be created by a staff writer at Paramount or Berman himself for him to be spun off into another series.

Wait... wasn't Locarno created by Naren Shakar? And wasn't he a staff writer? If I'm not mistaken, he's even the one who Kira's Shakar Resistance Cell was named after.

I don't think he was a staff writer at the time.

 

[Destructor]

Plus I think his name was Naren Shankar. Plus I thought Ron Moore wrote the majority of the episode?

 

[Guy Gardener]

You sell something to a producer, it doesn't matter what they do to it, it's still yours to stamp rights on if they try to do something with it outside of the agreement of sale that they are using retained propriety rights they didn't think to prebuy.

Though more so I think this is like a reward, a nugget which makes it worth while for selling the rights to a gold mine if you're allowed to keep any silver they find.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Ran. I heard that she ran off the set.

Oh.

And by your logic Hober, Carey never served aboard the Enterprise in TNG Season One.

I'm not sure what your point is. In response to "Who created Miles O'Brien?" You responded that O'Brien was in "Farpoint." I pointed out that no such character was created for "Farpoint." In-universe, of course that's O'Brien. I'm not suggesting we're supposed to see that as a separate character. In fact, I'm not suggesting anything in-universe. O'Brien was created by the season two writing staff. That's not "my logic," that's actually what happened.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yup.

The point I was failing to make was that there is no such thing as fairies.

Try not to clap your ass off.

I dare you not to clap your ass off.

Dead fairies every where.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Yup.

The point I was failing to make was that there is no such thing as fairies.

But fairies wear boots.