A-Team, movie... thing. Discussion and Spoilers

[Checkmate]

Yeah, I'm not getting most of the criticisms. Even the action scenes, which seems to be getting the brunt of the bitching, weren't nearly as bad or hard to follow as some people are making out.

Murdock, especially, was great. Didn't care much for the guy playing B.A., but I absolutely love that they explained why an experienced special forces (and a Ranger at that) would have such a ridiculously aggressive fear of flying. That, oddly enough, was one of the biggest issues I used to have with the original series.

 

[Admiral2]

Posted by doubleohfive:


Did anybody catch the TNG reference in the film?

When Murdock is in the mental institution (the second time) and is about to be rescued, just before Sosa (Biel) and her boys show up, the credits on the 3D film being screened cam be clearly seen. One of the names? "Reginald Barclay"

I think I was the only Trek fan in the theater who actually got that joke.

I caught it, but I think I was the only Trek fan in the theater, period, so nobody went nuts.

 

[DarthPipes]

Yeah, I'm not getting most of the criticisms. Even the action scenes, which seems to be getting the brunt of the bitching, weren't nearly as bad or hard to follow as some people are making out.

Murdock, especially, was great. Didn't care much for the guy playing B.A., but I absolutely love that they explained why an experienced special forces (and a Ranger at that) would have such a ridiculously aggressive fear of flying. That, oddly enough, was one of the biggest issues I used to have with the original series.

Yeah, they explained BA's fear of flying very well. Loved the line "I'm an Airbourne Ranger whose afraid of flying." Of course, why the moron had the helicopter door open in the first place is a mystery but it totally worked.

Yeah, in Mexico they didn't even kill the General. They let the Air Force do it.

 

[Nardpuncher]

^^ There's a scene after the credits where both Benedict and Schultz appear.

Damn it! I stayed for a minute or two after the show, watching the credits, but left, thinking there wouldn't be anything.
Oh well, that's what youtube's for!

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, in Mexico they didn't even kill the General. They let the Air Force do it.

Reminds me of what they generally did on the original Mission: Impossible. They didn't want the heroes to be portrayed as overt killers, so they tried to get around it by having them trick the target's own cohorts or rivals or government into killing him, as if that somehow made the IMF less responsible for the death. (Although there was the aptly named episode "Shock," the climax of which featured Dan Briggs, the original team leader, shooting an unconscious man in cold blood. And that was after subjecting the man to hours of psychological torture and unnecessary electroshock therapy.)

 

[Scott Butler]

I gave it an A+. Don't think about this movie, don't try to analyze it, just go and enjoy it. The first half of this movie is the most fun I've had at a movie in forever, absolute 100% pure unadulterated awesomeness. The second half is only about 90% pure awesomeness, because they try to fit a story in as well, which takes screen time away from the awesome.

Liam Neeson is far better as Hannibal than I thought he'd be, and Cooper and Copley absolutely nail Face and Murdock. Quintin Jackson as Mr. T is a bit hit and miss, the scenes when he's yelling at Murdock are absolutely pitch perfect, but in the less cartoony scenes he's sometimes a bit lost.

I literally can't remember the last time I had this much fun at a movie.

 

[CaptJimboJones]

I thought this movie was far, far more enjoyable than it had any right to be. Great fun.

 

[Nowhere Man]

I give this movie an A+, no complaints at all. This was the A Team through and through. I was and still a big fan of the show and watched religiously as a kid. I have no problems with the killing at all. All the charachters were on point and Murdock was awasome. He is my favorite anyway, did anyone catch the District 9 reference? Sharto did the Vicis accent. This was one of the few Movie adaptations that really hit it on the head. Excellent movie, can't wait for the sequel. I hope BA. gets his van back though. Someone mentioned that this movie was like what Star Trek was last year as far reboots go. I can agree with that.

 

[joVuNik]

Truly enjoyed this movie.
Best time I've had at a theatre in a long time!

I guess it helps when you go in expecting utter crap lol.

The cast had awesome chemistry and truly captured the essence of the show.
We Missed the scene after the end credits, damn. So anyone going make sure to stay till the end.

 

[Nowhere Man]

^ I missed that, what happened?

 

[Aragorn]

^ A pair of cameos.

 

[Christopher]

He is my favorite anyway, did anyone catch the District 9 reference? Sharto did the Vicis accent.

But was it specifically the Wikus voice, or was it just Copley using his own real South African accent?

 

[doubleohfive]

I thought the District 9 reference was when they were at the airport and Murdock and B.A. had their passports mixed up, and the airline officer started speaking Swahili to Murdock, who after a moment of tension starts speaking Swahili back.

"Oh course he speaks Swahili!"

 

[Christopher]

Was Swahili referenced in District 9? That would be surprising, since Kiswahili is a language of east and central Africa, not southern Africa. South Africa has 11 official languages, but Kiswahili isn't one of them. IMDb says the (human) languages used in the film are English, Nyanja, Afrikaans, Zulu, Xhosa, and Sotho.

 

[Nowhere Man]

He is my favorite anyway, did anyone catch the District 9 reference? Sharto did the Vicis accent.

But was it specifically the Wikus voice, or was it just Copley using his own real South African accent?

Well I didn't know he was South African. It sounded like Wikus to me. It had that voice and manerisms.It was the scene where they are stealing the plates the first time and Murdock needed a camera, he goes up to someone and says, " excuse me I seeyou don't have South Africaian flag" or something to that effect and it sounded likeWikus, with the smile and msnerisilems. I could be mistaken.

 

[Christopher]

^Okay, then it was probably a Wikus allusion, since that characterization isn't quite the same as Copley's own accent and delivery (at least that's what I gather from the D9 bonus features).

 

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah that would be the better definition

 

[DarthPipes]

Spoiler: Spoiler I guess...

You know, the fact that they do end up in jail again is actually realistic. They did bust into a government facility to get Murdock and did billions of dollars of damage. It's not like Taken, where Neeson's character kills a bunch of people, as well as a high-ranking shiek and goes home like it's nothing.

 

[Checkmate]

Spoiler: The Ending

But they didn't end up in prison again. That was the whole point of the ending. Just like in the original show, they're on the run; hiring themselves out as troubleshooters/mercenaries for people in need while evading the government who wants to put them behind bars. The only thing that's changed from the series is that this time it is for crimes they did commit. Hannibal even admits to that. It's their first imprisonment that they were innocent of.

It makes more sense for them to be able to do that now, though. The crimes they are wanted for -- mostly breaking out of federal prison that they were wrongly commited to -- isn't the kind of thing that demands massive manhunts. Sending one or two teams after them (probably Jessica Beal's little group) fits in a lot better. If it was the other way around -- and they were still wanted for the whole counterfeit plates thing -- it would be completely unbelievable for them to be as casual in their activities as they were in the original series. The movie fixed a lot of things that the series never addressed.

 

[Trekker4747]

I'll likely go see this Saturday night. I'll have my review up shortly after! Looking forward to this one.