A strange inconsistency I noticed

[Pwnerade]

I'm currently watching the first season, and Janeway referred to B'Elanna Torres by her first name a lot, which seemed odd. She would have hardly been on a first-name basis with her this early on, and she calls everyone else who has a last name by their last name. It seems inconsistently informal on her part. Is there some reason for it? Other characters will sometimes call her by her first name, too, and switch back in forth between using her first or last name for no apparent reason. It would make sense for the Maquis personnel, but the Starfleet people do it, too.

Also, your forum has great smilies.

 

[Timo]

I'd attribute it to both Janeway and Torres being in love with sciences and technology. It's a sisterhood of geekiness in action here... Technobabble means a lot to both, and they have a lot of common ground despite their disagreements and otherwise different philosophies.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Also, I don't think it's an inconsistency, per se. She does call her B'Elanna throughout the entire show, if I'm not very much mistaken.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Even though Torres is her human fathers name, it's still the name of her house, and it's protocol to refer to Klingons by their Christian name, and then their house name.

B'Elanna, of the house of Torres.

Only the head of the House is referred to with the House name.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

True. Most other humans didn't do that, though...or Tuvok. But I guess the more formal the address, the more comfortable he feels. He's Vulcan, after all.

 

[Pwnerade]

Even though Torres is her human fathers name, it's still the name of her house, and it's protocol to refer to Klingons by their Christian name, and then their house name.

B'Elanna, of the house of Torres.

Only the head of the House is referred to with the House name.

Thank you!

 

[Sandoval]

Janeway doesn't seem to be particularly concerned with formalities, she dislikes 'ma'am' and tends to call everyone by their first name most of the time, Harry, Tom, B'Elanna and so on.

 

[Captain Ransom]

One of the more bothersome inconsistencies for me happens after the whole song and dance in the episode Alliances, where Janeway goes on about how Starfleet principles are their best allies.

Then, all of a sudden, in the Swarm, they are "a long way from Starfleet," and so the decision to trespass is made by Janeway, though Tuvok protests. This is actually almost the exact same mistake that Captain Ransom made when he was brought to the Delta Quadrant, which caused him to lose half his crew. Except that Janeway was able to avoid those kinds of consequences... so, that makes it alright? o_O

 

[Sandoval]

As far as inconsistencies go that whole 'fiddling with the combadge' business in Dark Frontier, never seen before, never seen again takes some beating.

 

[Guy Gardener]

After the vibrate mode was invented for cellphones, there were all these dramodies and comedies wherein a woman would artfully stick their phone down their pantssuit (housewives don't fuck around, they have washer/driers to sit on when their libido opens for business after their mid morning gimlet.) and wait for an incoming call to drive them to orgasm.

I wonder if they can set com badges to vibrate?

 

[Kai Winn]

Now that you mention it, she never called seven nine, or adressed seska and kes by their last names.

 

[The Dominion]

Get ready for more of them inconsistencies, it's what the writers specialized in.

 

[Sandoval]

Now that you mention it, she never called seven nine, or adressed seska and kes by their last names.

Or Neelix. Or the Doctor. Or Tuvok.

In fact she didn't address anyone with a single name by their last names did she?

How strange...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Vulcans don't have second names and Neelix might not have had one either since why the frack would he want Janeway to find him too quickly after he's finished the con or hiest he had in mind when he signed up.

Miss Seven? No, no Miss Nine? Miss tertiary Adjunct of of Unimatrix Zero zero One? Crewman Hansen?

I don't know why she kept her slave name.

It' like when some kid was kidnapped 15 years ago and he finally figures out that his parents are not really his parents and his name isn't what he thought it was... How do you tell your real parents that you don't want to be called by the name they gave you.

 

[Gary7]

^ Agreed. She still has Borg "roots"... and although she does not approve of their rampant assimilation techniques, she still carries a lot of respect for the Borg. Regardless, they did kidnap her for life. This was no "off to military service" thing. So, you'd think that she wouldn't want to keep her Borg designation. After all, "7 of 9" no longer applies. She's one of over 100.

She should have continued with her former human name, Anika Hansen, once her true identity was discovered.

In any case, she didn't have a Starfleet ranking of any kind. So, just "Hansen" would've sounded odd.

"Seven"... on it's own, not such a bad name, though. I wonder if this was a nod to Seinfeld (episode where George Costanza reveals his intention to name his first child "Seven").

 

[Sandoval]

"First name?"

"Neelix."

"Surname?"

"I don't have a surname."

"Sir, the form requires a surname."

"But I don't have one."

"Sir, everyone registering as a member of Voyager's crew must provide a surname."

 

[Guy Gardener]

I like to think that Chakotay had a relatively mundane Christian name, but that's unlikely since we saw his father call him "Chakotay" in a flashback.

The Doctor never stopped calling Turkey Platter "Mr Paris".

 

[spooky spice]

She should have continued with her former human name, Anika Hansen, once her true identity was discovered.

Now don't all kill me at once, but from what I can gather, you're not supposed to change a character's name mid-way through a season, cos it confuses the audience, who are used to a character called [in this case] Seven of Nine, and not some woman called Annika.

(I was told this many many years ago when I wrote a screenplay with a character called whatever it was, and they acquired a nickname en route to the credits rolling, and I was told off by the Reader )

"Seven"... on it's own, not such a bad name, though. I wonder if this was a nod to Seinfeld (episode where George Costanza reveals his intention to name his first child "Seven").

good enough for Posh'n'Beck's sprog!!

I like to think that Chakotay had a relatively mundane Christian name, but that's unlikely since we saw his father call him "Chakotay" in a flashback.

I was going to say did Chakotay have a second name, was he John Chakotay, or Chakotay Smith...?

(I remember reading somewhere many years ago that Mr Spock's first name was Harold)

 

[Sandoval]

I was going to say did Chakotay have a second name, was he John Chakotay, or Chakotay Smith...?

You're correct. His name was John Chakotay.

First prize.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In full, it's actually "Johnboy" Chakotay.

His father was obsessed by The Waltons reruns.