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A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

A new full length trailer for season 3 has been released.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XSeW4B5Rg[/yt]
 
Two new short scenes (or clips from scenes) from the first season 3 episode have been made public on youtube:

Clip 1 - Dany and her dragons (showing the larger dragons this year)
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RWyeCEQmAG0[/yt]

A close-op of Drogon... They certainly keep improving the effects: (click for higher resolution)


Clip 2 - Tyrion and Cersei:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9psdmBgjwU0[/yt]
 
A sort of mixed review from Myles McNutt:

http://cultural-learnings.com/2013/03/25/review-game-of-thrones-season-3/

These two challenges—an increasingly fragmented narrative and a lack of a clear overarching story arc—are not insurmountable; in fact, I found neither to be particularly concerning, and found the first four episodes of the season to be a most welcome return to Westeros. However, the circumstances under which I viewed these episodes mitigated these factors in ways that not all viewers will have access to. As someone who has read the books, I know where these narratives are heading, and can therefore read purpose and momentum in ways that those ignorant to those futures may not. And as someone who is lucky enough to receive advance screeners for the series, I had the luxury of popping in the second episode when I discovered one of my favorite characters doesn’t appear in the first one, something that those watching weekly won’t have.


What I’m suggesting, I suppose, is that Game of Thrones has evolved in such a way that I’m unsure if my experience with the show’s third season can be successfully mapped into a more generalized “review.” I thought every storyline was well executed, I enjoyed every episode, and I was left wanting more, but I also left wondering how much those responses were shaped by the context in which the episodes were viewed, and if we’re reaching the point where reaction to the series will be divided more starkly among devoted viewers and more casual audiences.
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Another review that speaks to how there are many stories/characters, but if you go all in you will be rewarded (minor spoilers):

http://www.mercurynews.com/entertai...iew-game-thrones-gets-even-more-brutal-season

The abundance of characters -- and story lines -- on "Thrones" can be both a blessing and a curse. All the actors, including notable Season 3 newcomers Ciaran Hinds and Diana Rigg, are marvelous. But the show can, at times, feel frustratingly overstuffed and disjointed.


Just when you find yourself becoming riveted to one plot thread, a switch is made and a connection is lost. "Thrones" is like a dozen shows in one, and it's about the farthest thing you can get from veg-out TV. You have to fully immerse yourself in the blood, the muck and the duplicity of it all.


But those who make the investment are richly rewarded. There's enough tension, betrayal, treachery, greed and sex, after all, to fill eight seasons of "Scandal." And no show on TV contains the visual majesty of this production, which is shot in five countries for a reported $50 million to $60 million.
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So, no music for Mance, or did I miss it? Will Mance's future mission be altered as well?

No Strong Belwas, but that was really just to keep Barristan hidden. I was wondering if they would just come out with him. Makes you wonder if and how he gets a trip through the sewers or if someone else just goes alone.

Is anybody else going to skinchange? Any talking crows? Talking crows pays off later with the 3 -eyed-crow and weirwood. Children of the forest? Suppose no crannogmen on the horizon, with Bran having the green-dreams.

I didn't like Jon's purported reason for switching sides. Thought the book's version was better. Probably could do it later in a talk with Mance.

Nice giants. Any mammoths coming?

Liked Tywin's speech to Tirion, good setup to the bathroom scene.
 
^^^ We should see some more skin changing when
Arya gets to Braavos and links up with the House of Black & White.

Talking crows should start making appearances soon, but I don't think we'll be seeing any Children of the Forrest at all this season. IIRC,
Bran didn't actually run into them until Cold Hands brought him to their underground lair in ADwD.
 
137th Gebirg said:
...but I don't think we'll be seeing any Children of the Forrest at all this season....
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If no crannogmen then nobody to explain the Children of the Forest, except Osha? Maybe it'd work, but then you could probably cut them entirely. Just work with green dreams and Osha's explanation
to get them to cold hands and the cave
. Tough to say though, considering the unwritten portions.
 
^^^ Yep, I think they're going to try to be very careful how much of that future information from the later books they're going to put into the series for fear that it might coincide too closely with Winds of Winter. They're already moving Theon's/Reek's story up much sooner than originally established in the books. I suspect they have been working very closely with Martin to make sure their efforts don't collide with his. Probably one of the myriad reasons why it's taking so long for him to get the next book out the door.
 
Tyberius said:
137th Gebirg said:
...but I don't think we'll be seeing any Children of the Forrest at all this season....
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If no crannogmen then nobody to explain the Children of the Forest, except Osha? Maybe it'd work, but then you could probably cut them entirely. Just work with green dreams and Osha's explanation
to get them to cold hands and the cave
. Tough to say though, considering the unwritten portions.
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According to a Comic-Con panel last summer both Meera and Jojen Reed have been cast and will feature in season 3. Frankly I'm glad they're not being written out.

http://io9.com/5925957/game-of-thrones-reveals-new-cast-members-for-season-3
 
The ratings are in: the third season premiere drew 4.4 million viewers for its first screening and a combined 6.7 million viewers after its first two repeats. That's the highest audience the show has drawn to date, the previous high point being 4.2 million viewers for the first airing of the second season finale. The first airing of the second season premiere drew 3.858 million viewers.

An official greenlight for the fourth season should be forthcoming very soon.
 
Lowdarzz said:
Tyberius said:
137th Gebirg said:
...but I don't think we'll be seeing any Children of the Forrest at all this season....
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If no crannogmen then nobody to explain the Children of the Forest, except Osha? Maybe it'd work, but then you could probably cut them entirely. Just work with green dreams and Osha's explanation
to get them to cold hands and the cave
. Tough to say though, considering the unwritten portions.
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According to a Comic-Con panel last summer both Meera and Jojen Reed have been cast and will feature in season 3. Frankly I'm glad they're not being written out.

http://io9.com/5925957/game-of-thrones-reveals-new-cast-members-for-season-3
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Huh, I thought they were out because of Bran having the greendream of Winterfell being covered by the sea. Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Thoros of Myr? Why wait until now? Why not introduce him at the Hands games? Hope for the Grey Lady at least, thought that story-line was cut entirely.

Selyse? Thought they'd just abandoned her for more Melisandre screen time.
 
Tyberius said:
Thoros of Myr? Why wait until now? Why not introduce him at the Hands games?
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Because casting an actor for a minor role in one episode and then not having him appear again until two years later isn't really a practical way of doing things. It's the same reason the featured extra who played Beric in season one wasn't brought back for season three.
 
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