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A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

Legendary Actress Diana Rigg cast as Queen of Thorns according to Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-ahead-Spice-Girls-musical-Viva-Forever.html

Diana Rigg (pictured), who will play Olenna Redwyne, aka Queen of Thorns (because of her sharp-tongue and prickliness), the wily grandmother of Margaery Tyrell in the third season of the highly popular drama series Game Of Thrones, which will start shooting next month.

The actress will be a semi-regular character throughout the third series of the show, which is based on George R.R. Martin’s best-selling novels. Olenna is a powerful, domineering matriarch and queen, who’s a mistress of the art of manipulation.

The drama will be shown on Sky Atlantic.
 
I think Rigg would be a great choice, but it's the Daily Mail, so who knows? It's not encouraging that they don't know the third season has already started shooting.
 
I think Rigg would be a great choice, but it's the Daily Mail, so who knows? It's not encouraging that they don't know the third season has already started shooting.


There was speculation out there that Rigg was involved, maybe that was what the Daily Mail was running with.
 
Diana Rigg and many other new cast confirmed: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Massive_Comic-Con_Casting_Reveals/

Diana Rigg as Lady Olenna Tyrell. Also known as “The Queen of Thorns,” Lady Olenna is the grandmother of Margaery and Loras Tyrell and is, in many ways, the true leader of their powerful family.

Mackenzie Crook as Orell. A wildling raider, Orell is a “warg” or “skinchanger,” with the ability to enter the mind of an animal and control its actions.

Clive Russell as Bryndon “The Blackfish” Tully. Known far and wide as “The Blackfish,” Brynden is a famous knight and the uncle of Catelyn Stark. He quarreled bitterly with his brother, Lord Hoster Tully, and the two were estranged for many years.

Nathalie Emannuel as Missandei. Originally from the peaceful island of Naath, Missandei was sold into slavery as a child, along with her brother. She received education in various languages and became a translator to the slave trader Kraznys in Astapor.

Kerry Ingram as Shireen Baratheon, the only child of Stannis Baratheon. An avid reader, she escapes her lonely life through myths and stories – her books are her most treasured possessions.

Paul Kaye as Thoros of Myr. A key member of the outlaw band known as the Brotherhood Without Banners, he is a Red Priest, in service of the Lord of Light, and originally hails from the Free City of Myr, in Essos.

Thomas Brodie-Sangster as Jojen Reed, a mysterious and enigmatic young man who becomes an important ally to Bran Stark.

Ellie Kendirck as Meera Reed. The eldest daughter of Howland Reed and a staunch Stark loyalist, Meera and her younger brother Jojen seek out Bran Stark to protect him on his hard journey north.

Richard Dormer as Beric Dondarrion. Once the lord of Blackhaven and a celebrated warrior, Lord Beric has now become the leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners, a band of vigilante outlaws.

Kristofer Hivju as Tormund Giantsbane. A famed wildling warrior and chief lieutenant of the “King Beyond the Wall,” Mance Rayder, Tormund is fearsome and strong, with a large build and a beard to match.

Philip McGinley as Anguy, an extremely skilled archer and key member of the outlaw band known as the Brotherhood Without Banners.

Tara Fitzgerald as Selyse Baratheon. The wife of Stannis Baratheon, Selyse spends much of her life in seclusion, shut away in a gloomy tower.

Tobias Menzies as Edmure Tully. The younger brother of Catelyn Stark, Edmure has recently become Lord of Riverrun in the wake of his father’s death.

Anton Lesser as Qyburn, a former maester of the Citadel, who was stripped of his chain many years ago.
 
I'm not sure why Dondarrion has been re-cast . . . but really, he was only in 1 episode in season 1 and I doubt it'll make much difference

I also think Tormund Giantsbane was well cast

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I guess we will not be seeing Cat visiting her father in his deathbed.

Good to see Anguy, but what about Tom O'Sevens?
 
I sincerely doubt there was ever any question of the season one Beric playing the role in season three. David Michael Scott was basically a featured extra, someone they used to set up that plot point without the impracticalities of finding a permanent actor two years before you need him to do any real acting.

This isn't necessarily a full list of new characters; we know they're casting Mance Rayder and Daario Naharis for season three and there's been no announcement on either one, so there's at least a little more to come.
 
So thoughts on who should be Ramsay, Vargo or Mance?
Dream cast or realistic choices?
Dream cast - David Oakes as Ramsay and James Purefoy as Mance. I don't care much about Vargo.
But judging from all the previous casting, I'm sure Nina Gold will find the best possible actors for those roles.
 
I think sometimes realistic can fall in line with Dream. I mean last year they signed a couple of well known television actors to Game of Thrones. I wouldn't mind a recognizable face as Mance
 
I think sometimes realistic can fall in line with Dream. I mean last year they signed a couple of well known television actors to Game of Thrones. I wouldn't mind a recognizable face as Mance
Mance is big enough role for someone recognizable, Ramsay probably too. Vargo - not sure.
 
So - into book two now...

How are they going to deal with the whole Rhaegar thing in the series I wonder?

In the books, he seems a quite important person for a dead guy. I assume that all of the remembering the POV characters are doing in the books must be leading somewhere.

Are they just going to up in season X, Y or Z have loads of exposition explaining his importance or just drop it?

But how can they drop it as the books hint at the true story of what went down in the rebellion being pivotal?

and if they do cast Rhaegar...I would like Tom Hiddleston
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I imagine they'll start doing infodumps about Rhaegar when he becomes immediately relevant to the story, if the TV series lasts that long. Benioff and Weiss don't seem terribly interested in playing out gradual revelations and mysteries, so from their perspective there's no point layering in his history until just before he's revealed to be Jon's father (or whatever).
 
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