A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

[CaptainCanada]

Tyrion in chains and Sansa at the Eyrie would be the obvious ones (in the latter case, while set photos and other pictures of Sophie Turner already suggested this, it looks like there's not going to be any "Alayne Stone" hair on the show).

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Aw, that's a shame.

 

[Q2UnME]

Little "mini-trailers" are up at EW

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/01/10/game-of-thrones-season-4-trailer-teaser/

 

[DevilEyes]

And here's a 15-seconds teaser trailer by HBO Adria. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih3WsEKmID0

Tyrion in chains and Sansa at the Eyrie would be the obvious ones (in the latter case, while set photos and other pictures of Sophie Turner already suggested this, it looks like there's not going to be any "Alayne Stone" hair on the show).

There's no way for anyone who hasn't read the books to figure out she's in the Eyrie from that shot. Heck, people who have read the books aren't sure she is in the Eyrie in that shot - there's been a discussion about it on the Forum of Ice and Fire, and some people think she's still in King's Landing in that shot. The background in that shot looks very strange and unfinished, as if they hadn't done the post-production on it; some have even speculated it's fake to cover up the actual location.

And how do we know she's not having darker hair in the Eyrie? Have there been any set photos of Sophie at the Eyrie? I've only seen the ones from Dubrovnik/KL.

 

[DevilEyes]

I don't know why he didn't push for more mysticism in the Bran scenes, and they kind of glossed over how significant it was for him to warg into another human (Hodor).

Lots of magical elements from the books have been cut. The showrunners prioritise tits over magic, as a means of making the show more accessible to non-fantasy fans.

I do like this show quite a bit, but it's hard for me to discuss it without launching in to a negative rant about.. just about any element.

Yes, the order of importance on the TV show is: tits > people snarking at each other > politics (mostly shown through people snarking at each other) > magic things that make for spectacular TV (dragons, wights etc.) > mysticism, backstory and overall themes.

People who only watch the show are probably wondering why the book series is called A Song of Ice and Fire. If they even know what it's called.

 

[CaptainCanada]

And how do we know she's not having darker hair in the Eyrie? Have there been any set photos of Sophie at the Eyrie? I've only seen the ones from Dubrovnik/KL.

We don't know for sure, but she never changed her hair at any point during filming, so the only way the hair change is happening is if it's a wig (she also, for instance, had red hair in Iceland when filming Vale stuff, so again, wig is the only option). Which could be the case, for all we know, but considering Turner's hair is dyed red to begin with, I don't know why they wouldn't just dye it again.

 

[Takeru]

... but considering Turner's hair is dyed red to begin with, I don't know why they wouldn't just dye it again.

Maybe she likes her hair red and doesn't want to change it?

I don't think changing he hair color is necessary, people who know Sansa will recognize her with any hair color and people who don't know her won't figure out who she is just because of her hair, it's not that special, the show can just ignore that bit from the novels.

 

[Kelthaz]

Season 4 trailer has arrived.

*insert hype.gif here*

 

[Venardhi]

Looks good. This season should be a good sign as to how they will handle the next few seasons, shuffling up the books everywhere but in Kings Landing (and making a few changes there as well).

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Nice trailer!

 

[CaptainCanada]

Looks good. This season should be a good sign as to how they will handle the next few seasons, shuffling up the books everywhere but in Kings Landing (and making a few changes there as well).

King's Landing is going to be pretty much depopulated this year (after hitting peak capacity in the same season).

 

[Kosh Naranek]

I cannot wait until the longer look is posted.

I wonder what they will do with Bran and Co plus Rickon this year? It looks like parts of Bran's book 4 story will begin. In the last season they sent Rickon off to the Umbers. I wonder if they will use that to show opposition to Roose's rule?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Spoiler: Rickon

IIRC, in the books, once Rickon was sent away, that's the last we saw of him. I'm re-reading the books now, and I'm only up to Clash of Kings, but I think that's it for him - and Osha - for now. It's just Bran and Hodor and the Reeds at this point, beyond the wall.

Nothing earth-shattering...

 

[Brendan Moody]

They've done Bran's entire story from A Storm of Swords already, so there's not much to do but get into his three A Dance with Dragons chapters. Bloodraven is appearing this year, which means they'll be getting through at least two of the three; I expect they'll also do part of the third, which spans a long time and has enough interesting material that it could easily cover the entire fifth season as well.

In the books, Rickon and Osha haven't appeared on page since the end of A Clash of Kings, but we know they end up on Skagos, an island to the east of the Wall reportedly inhabited by cannibals. Davos is tasked with rescuing them as the price for Wyman Manderly's support of Stannis. What'll happen on the show, I have no idea. There's no information either way on whether Natalia Tena and Art Parkinson did filming for this season.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Here's a profile of Emilia Clarke from The Wall Street Journal Magazine with a slideshow of the magazine photo shoot.

 

[CaptainCanada]

There's no information either way on whether Natalia Tena and Art Parkinson did filming for this season.

Yeah, there is. They didn't (Tena said as much).

 

[Brendan Moody]

Not doubting you particularly, but do you have a source for that? I see a Spanish-language interview where she's uncertain, but nothing else. And, something I hadn't noticed before, Art Parkinson tweeted last summer about being in Belfast with lots of lines to learn. Maybe that was for another project, though.

 

[Takeru]

Or he was just being snarky, he did something similar before season 3 started, when he said he wasn't sure if he filmed scenes for it, he knows that Rickon is the unimportant and often forgotten Stark.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Not doubting you particularly, but do you have a source for that? I see a Spanish-language interview where she's uncertain, but nothing else. And, something I hadn't noticed before, Art Parkinson tweeted last summer about being in Belfast with lots of lines to learn. Maybe that was for another project, though.

Parkinson is in a Dracula project that was also filming in Belfast.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Nathalie Emmanuel will be a regular cast member in the fifth season. From Deadline:

Nathalie Emmanuel is getting a promotion on HBO‘s Game Of Thrones. Emmanuel first joined the hit fantasy drama series as a recurring last season, appearing in eight of the 10 episodes. She will continue to recur in the upcoming fourth season and is being made a regular for Season 5, which has not been picked up yet but that is simply a formality. Emmanuel plays former slave Missandei who has a gift for languages and becomes Daenerys’ (Emilia Clarke) confidant and trusted advisor. She joins fellow GOT recurring player Michiel Huisman, who also recently was upped to regular for Season 5. Emmanuel, repped by ICM Partners, Untitled Entertainment and Stone, Meyer and Genow, plays a new female lead in the upcoming Fast & Furious 7.