Re: A Hater Revisits Voyager My problem isn't Janeway making the decision because that made sense given the circumstances, my problem is the lack of consequences. They had a 1 in 20 chance of survival yet Voyager gets through the ordeal with no damage and no casualties, and I call BS on that. It was built up as such a dangerous thing that the aliens were willing to give up and leave the ship (and half of them died when their ship blew up) and it is so ridiculous that after all the build-up absolutely nothing happened. I don't think you can say that TMP was mooshed into too short a time-frame. Spoiler: Trek XI Frankly, I think that most people are being too fair on Trek XI for having to set up the characters and using that as a reason why they didn't have time to focus on the plot. Every (non-sequel) movie ever made has had to introduce the audience to the characters and their lives while still trying to tell a story, so it is ridiculous that people are using this as an argument to defend this movie. The problem isn't that they spent so much time focusing on defining the characters, the problem is how much time was spent on superfluous scenes such as the monster chase. All they needed to do was cut out five minutes of the pointless action scenes and use that time to fix the story, but my unfortunate opinion is that the writers couldn't work the story so they threw in as much action as they could to distract the audience from how lacklustre the whole thing was.