I liked it too. It was overly stupid and completely ridiculous in a way I have never seen before, but that's why I enjoyed it. A massively cheesy over-the-top epic finale. Of course, I never want to see something like that again. Once is enough.
A Season Finale Too Far?
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I liked it too. It was overly stupid and completely ridiculous in a way I have never seen before, but that's why I enjoyed it. A massively cheesy over-the-top epic finale. Of course, I never want to see something like that again. Once is enough.
The show now has a budget that is comparatively bigger, with vastly more developed production values and a head writer that is essentially on top of his game, with more at his fingertips than his drastically cash strapped predecessors, so it was almost inevitable he would go loopy with "Journey's End".
And while it seems like Steven Moffat is likely going to pull things back somewhat and inject much needed fresh blood into the series, I don't think he's entirely perfect either - people may bitch and moan about Donna Noble, but at least I didn't find her as punchably smug as River Song.
And while it seems like Steven Moffat is likely going to pull things back somewhat and inject much needed fresh blood into the series, I don't think he's entirely perfect either - people may bitch and moan about Donna Noble, but at least I didn't find her as punchably smug as River Song.
On the contrary, I think that Donna was the best companion the new series has served up so far. A lot of that credit, I think, belongs to Catherine Tate. As such a talented, experienced comedianne, she was the only would who could meet David Tennant on equal footing and just let their performances bounce off each other. It was beautiful music together. (BTW, I'm a huge fan of The Catherine Tate Show and I recommend it to everyone here.)
Rose & Martha were a bit too blah by comparison. They got more development than previous companions. They each got a backstory and a family (or at least an insufferable mother). But there were still times where they were left with little to do but get put in jeopardy and allow the Doctor to impart vital technobabble exposition.
But I liked River Song too. I thought that was a great take on the character, showing her saddness at meeting a Doctor who had absolutely no memory of her. If nothing else Moffat has this great ability to whip up female characters that you instantly fall in love with. I would easily put River Song up in the pantheon next to Madame duPompadour in "The Girl in the Fireplace" & Sally Sparrow in "Blink."
In the defense of Davros, he did fry Donna with a full on electrical energy blast that sent her flying. Had she not also been in the middle of a human/timelord metacrisis and had a bit of the Doctor's regeneration energy in her, she might have died and Davros likely thought that she was dead. Dalek Kahn did predict that one of the Doctor's companions would die after all.
Now, her using that handy control console that had access to every Dalek control system? Way too much. But it was a "we need to wrap this up quick" plot point, so they threw Donna the "Wesley Crusher" moment on this one.
As to the new ending with Rose and the human Doctor... David Tennant already knew he was going to leave the series at the point of this episode. But he loves playing the Doctor. Only, once you leave the role you don't get to come back for more than a single story once every few years. The guy wants to stretch his acting legs, but still wants to be able to return to the Doctor later on down the road. And Billie Piper seems to be of the same mind with Rose Tyler. That's what the human Doctor is, Tennant's back door to return to the role some years down the road left in a parallel, virtually untouched Earth (aside from a foiled Cyberman invasion) without it's own natural Doctor to look after it. His new series will open up with the explanation that the time that has passed was what it had taken for the Doctor to build a new TARDIS from scratch on Pete's World Earth. And off they go to explore the new universe.
I've been watching Who since the mid-70s. I thought that Stolen Earth/Journey's End was the big payoff for those of us who have stuck with this show for so damned long. It was the REALLY BIG Who epic I never thought I'd see. They even threw in a '70s companion to tie it all up. despite the flaws, it's easily become my favorite story, and I've seen just about all of them. Loved that Torchwood was there, too. I was thinking today that, if there is some kind of TERRIBLE mess-up, and Who doesn't come back for awhile, that SE/JE was also a satisfying series finale.
I thought everyone got this out of their system back in August?
I'm one of those poor sods who liked it btw. Not perfect, but after beign a fan since the mid-80's, I've learned to just take the good with the bad and move on.
I thought everyone got this out of their system back in August?
I'm one of those poor sods who liked it btw. Not perfect, but after beign a fan since the mid-80's, I've learned to just take the good with the bad and move on.
^Agreed!
I can't stand The Catherine Tate Show but I agree Donna Noble wasn't all that bad, she certainly fared better than Rose Tyler did in her so-called 'Grand Return' that seemed like a cheap cash in that was poorly executed (she spent most of "Journey's End" within a Dalek forcefield).
