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A Roseanne revival? Really??

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This is on the level of Neo-Nazi recruitment media I've seen over the years, yet Kimmel not only got away with this textbook display of racism (disguised as "humor") right down to the thick-tongued, thick-skulked, inarticulate stereotype of a black man, but ABC Studios/Buena Vista--who do look into the backgrounds of potential employees--knew all about the series that made Kimmel famous, yet they partnered to bring him to ABC, and have not (as far as I can tell) issued one word about his unforgivable, running skit of racism, or reconsidered his status on the network--at least to pretend they will not tolerate an employee who built part of his fame on undeniable racism.
Well, blackface is a no-no but I think it was meant to be more about clowning Malone than about stereotyping blacks in general. The skit continues (sans blackface) as recently as last night.
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Well, blackface is a no-no but I think it was meant to be more about clowning Malone than about stereotyping blacks in general. The skit continues (sans blackface) as recently as last night.

That's how I took it though I only watched that one video and I never watched the "Man Show." so I don't know how most of the skits went. Flipped through it with my tv remote a few time back in the day. Also even though Karl Malone was one of my favorite players the guy is very conservative and has had some not so nice views. I know he once said he wouldn't play on the same court with Magic Johnson. in part because of a fear of getting HIV. I recall that being a issue back during the 1992 NBA-All-Star Game when Magic Johnson was going to play in it. Still it doesn't make much sense why they couldn't just get a Black Comedian to come and play Karl Malone for the skit.

Jason
 
^ I'll admit I'm seeing it through the eyes of "white privilege" so I can understand that it could be seen differently by others. A lot of black athletes get a similar treatment to Malone there: Shaq, Barkley, Tyson but I've always seen that as a testament to them being such distinctive characters in the same sense that everyone and their brother does impressions of Trump's speaking and mannerisms. But maybe there's a subtext there but I'd like to think not but it's interesting to hear other's takes on it.
 
Well, blackface is a no-no but I think it was meant to be more about clowning Malone than about stereotyping blacks in general. The skit continues (sans blackface) as recently as last night.
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The end result is still a white person in blackface, spewing horrible racial stereotypes. The skit is beyond offensive, and inexcusable, but Kimmel is protected, since no one in the media (most have all chimed in on Roseanne) will touch him.
 
Well, blackface is a no-no but I think it was meant to be more about clowning Malone than about stereotyping blacks in general. The skit continues (sans blackface) as recently as last night.
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Well, sure. They had to try to get ahead of the coming criticism of Kimmel's past transgressions. It's ok though. He's one of the "good guys." :techman:
 
All this equivocation of Roseanne's comment is getting a little ridiculous. Also with Samantha Bee, like there's no distinction to be made between degrading an entire race and religion and using a bad word to insult an individual public figure.

Jimmy Kimmel's Karl Malone sketch is one of those things where racism thresholds have evolved over twenty years. And meant to parody an individual black person, not make any negative comments about a race as a whole. Yeah, if he did the same thing tomorrow he'd face the same consequences.

But no, not all comments, not all vulgarity, not all insults are on the same level. Every case is an individual case, and equivocating to other incidences of vulgarity or insults with different consequences as if they are exactly the same is basically saying that insulting an entire race is exactly the same as insulting an individual or saying a swear word. Which is ridiculous.
 
Also all the Trumps are cunts, every last one of them. So calling a fact a fact should be rewarded.

And in news that actually matters, ABC is looking to pick up 'Darlene', a show without Roseanne. No one on Earth is shocked by this.
 
Context.

Roseanne said that all black people are monkeys.

Sam said that Ivanka needs to please save us from her father.

One is a personal insult that's supposed to make Ivanka get up and do something, the other is bad science that should have been left behind in the 19th century.

Here's what I don't understand... Bee also goes on to say that Ivanka should seduce her father because he finds her very attractive, and he wants to bang her, so using the c-word as a harsh stand in for the word "person" is worse than suggesting incest inside the Trump household?

Incest has to be worse than the C-Word.
 
And in news that actually matters, ABC is looking to pick up 'Darlene', a show without Roseanne. No one on Earth is shocked by this.

Ms. Barr would still get a chunk of revenue from any spinoff, as the co-creator of the character.
 
Another big difference between Roseanne is one thing happened in 2004 or around that time and another happened in 2018. One person seems to have evolved as a comedian and the other thinks comparing black people to monkeys is funny and even in the Malone skit it seems to be more of "dumb jock joke" mixed in with a joke specific to one person in Malone. PLus one was on a comedy show and the other was on Twitter which seems to be a place where people just like to go to rant. Roseanne's rant felt like a rant someone in the 1950's would make and Kimmel's skit is very different than how black face was used back in even more racist times. No really racist black sterotype stuff used. You could have used a white basketball as a example and basically do the same skit without changing one line because him being black wasn't even the point of the skit. In otherwords your not suppose to be laughing because Kimmel was in blackface. Your suppose to be laughing because Jocks and Karl Malone are dumb.

Jason
 
Valerie Jarrett is black--her parents are both African American, but she was born in Iran. Next, the "ape" racist attack as been used primarily against anyone of African descent for centuries, but it has also been used against other non-white people around the world. Either way, Rosanne's statement was despicable in the extreme and she--like anyone engaging in racist slurs, stereotypes, etc., should suffer the well earned consequences. However, we see that for some--based on an accepted political ideology and that of the employer--they can have astounding incidents of racist behavior in their past, yet the company did not pause before employing them. Examples are Jimmy Kimmel's sickening, running blackface skit as NBA player Karl Malone from his earlier vehicle, The Man Show--

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This is on the level of Neo-Nazi recruitment media I've seen over the years, yet Kimmel not only got away with this textbook display of racism (disguised as "humor") right down to the thick-tongued, thick-skulked, inarticulate stereotype of a black man, but ABC Studios/Buena Vista--who do look into the backgrounds of potential employees--knew all about the series that made Kimmel famous, yet they partnered to bring him to ABC, and have not (as far as I can tell) issued one word about his unforgivable, running skit of racism, or reconsidered his status on the network--at least to pretend they will not tolerate an employee who built part of his fame on undeniable racism.

Then, there's MSNBC, inarguably the most left-leaning news channel in the West, but they did not fire Joy Reid for her homophobic slurs in the past (she called same sex acts "gross"), and as of this day, has not taken action for a blog post attacking CNN's Wolf Blitzer--who is Jewish--as being a partisan for Israel. The difference here is that Kimmel and Reid both hold other beliefs that are right in line with the companies employing them, so their racist past has been glossed over.

Apparently, racism--one the few forms of true evil in human history--only becomes a controversy when the individual with the a particular "wrong" view say and/or practices it. Then again, for all of various media companies' self-aggrandizing statements about it being part of a culture of understanding and tolerance, said tolerance was and is practiced selectively...much like its outrage. One would expect that kind of position from the gateway drug to full on White Supremacy called Fox News, but from ABC (one firing does not remove the double standard) and MSNBC? No rational mind is buying their inaction in two glaring cases.
Can you imagine the consequences if a conservative television personality constantly said and did racist things, called women the c-word among many other misogynistic things, bragged about sexually assaulting women by grabbing them by the c-word (sorry, p-word), and bragged about walking in on naked underage girls to see their c-words? Why, I bet they'd sentence him to 4-8 years in the federal big house surrounded by the swamp. Because you only get in trouble if you have the "wrong" views, amirite?

Moral high ground, ahoy!
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-adviser-over-anti-hillary-group-called-cunt/
https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a39926/trump-supporter-disgusting-hillary-shirt/
 
Trump isn't one, he lacks depth and warmth. Also they're useful, Trump isn't. He's like having testicles growing on your forehead. Weird to look at, a major hinderance to normal life, distorts your view, and probably smells awful.
 
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