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A response to the Nerd Rage. Spoilers

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The reason that Khan and the Borg are considered the best villains is because the heroes were outmatched and bad things happened. There's no thrill to it if it isn't dark. You can't do all of Trek like that, but it's a great building block for character relationships when their backs are to the wall. Most of my friends and my former Trekker husband loved it, but two of my friends weren't sure about it. I can respect everyone's opinion about it, but I will say that some people have rose-colored glasses on when it comes to the older stuff. I was never the type of person who could stick with one hobby for my whole life, so it seems strange when I have friends who do...but I think it has to do with change. I love change, and I hate routine. I try to figure everything out about something as fast as I can, and then move on to something else. But I know that not everyone is like that - I am married to a routine-loving nuclear engineer, so it's all about balance. Both of us really liked this movie, though, because it does have that balance to us- the old with the new. You can't make something completely new because then it really doesn't feel like Star Trek. But you can't keep everything the same because then you're just rehashing the same things. I know not everyone feels this way, but we do, and I guess that's good enough for me. I don't demand everyone else like it, though.

I will fight anyone that says a bad word about Cumberbatch, though, lol. He could have played a redshirt and he STILL would have stolen the scene.
 
This was not a promising beginning to the thread:

You know what I am beginning to hate? Star Trek fans.

And it only went downhill from there:

Well it's actually okay... but when the haters call themselves "the real star trek fans". That's where the gloves come off.

I think alot of the hate is a smokescreen to the real issue at hand: WAHHH OUR SOCIAL CLUB ISN'T EXCLUSIVE TO US ANYMORE. GO AWAY DUMB REDNECKS WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND MUH STAR TREK.

Yeah, they let Hitler have his opinion...look what happened.
I see little that can come from this thread except for one faction of Trek fans trying to rip another faction of Trek fans to shreds, and vice versa. There's little difference between complaining about one side calling themselves "real fans" while you classify them as "haters" whom you want to fight or hate in turn.

Everyone needs to take a giant step back and realize that while we all love different parts of the franchise for different reasons, it's still just TV series, movies, books, etc., and when you start getting into using Godwins and terms like hatred and rage, maybe you're taking it all a bit too seriously.

In the meantime, this thread is closed, because it's not about discussing any aspect of the film itself, it's just about expressing your dislike for other fans, and that can't end up going well. Plus, the OP already has a thread about the same basic subject matter, only expressed in a less hyperbolic and divisive way, so I don't see the need for another one.
 
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