Does anyone know if they used CGI for the foreheads for baby Naomi, baby Miral and Seska's baby? I wouldn't think it would be a good idea to use the latex prosthetics on babies?
A question about makeup effects on Voyager
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Thanks for responding. I forgot about the JemHadar baby. There was a baby in the Borg ship in TNG when they encountered the Borg for the first time. In Voyager, their Borg baby and the alien baby in Friendship One were animitronic (however you spell it).
This is a little off topic, but I read once that in other TV shows to depict a baby that's been newly born (not cleaned up yet) that the actor baby would be smeared with red jello.
This is a little off topic, but I read once that in other TV shows to depict a baby that's been newly born (not cleaned up yet) that the actor baby would be smeared with red jello.
In STAR TREK V: The Final Frontier, of course, we see the newborn Spock being presented to Sarek. I was always given to understand that this was, in fact, not an infant at all, but a realistic doll that's puppeteered, somehow. I'm also convinced that, except for one, or two close-ups, that certain newborns were this, or a similar puppet. In "Before & After," this would apply to Linnis and possibly Kes, though newborn Kes included a couple close-ups of a real baby. Seska's infant, though, was not robotic. That kid was screaming his balls off, throughout and you could tell that most of Martha's dialogue was voiced over, later. Later, in ENT, Elizabeth's ears were CGI, for a couple quick shots. After that, she wore a cap, all the time.
There was a deleted scene from Star Trek 2009 that is on Youtube, which shows infant Spock with Amanda and Sarek. With CGI ears no doubt.
That would seem likely - I was unaware of the deleted infant scene. With Child Labour Laws and the unpredictable nature of infants to start crying and screaming over nothing, I would use almost anything other than a real baby in a movie, if given the choice. I'd use a blue ball representing a CGI baby, if it came to that. Even if it's just for one show, I'm pretty sure they try to cast twins in the same part, to switch them off, or at least have the option.
But some of these makeups STAR TREK television applied to these infants made me wonder why they bothered at all, it always ended up looking silly. I didn't know they used JELL-0 on these newborns in birthing scenes, though. I wondered about that. I remember Keiko giving birth in TNG and I'm pretty sure the kid was just wet-looking, like it was smeared with a gelatin. of some kind ... maybe even KY. It would be different, now, though - they might not even have to cover a baby with anything, just use CGI, instead.
But some of these makeups STAR TREK television applied to these infants made me wonder why they bothered at all, it always ended up looking silly. I didn't know they used JELL-0 on these newborns in birthing scenes, though. I wondered about that. I remember Keiko giving birth in TNG and I'm pretty sure the kid was just wet-looking, like it was smeared with a gelatin. of some kind ... maybe even KY. It would be different, now, though - they might not even have to cover a baby with anything, just use CGI, instead.
I agree about some of the make-ups looking silly. The forehead "spoon" shape on Seska's baby looked extremely fake. Naomi's "horns" a little less so. Baby Miral's ridges looked barely there.
I had forgotten about Molly O'Brien's birth. I wonder how many babies have been seen in all incarnations of Trek. On TNG there was also Troi's son Ian. There was Yoshi on DS9.
I don't remember where I heard or read about the Jello. Many TV productions probably do use CGI now. I recently finished a BBC series on Netflix called "Call the Midwife". In an article or an interview, it was talked about how a fake baby would be used to depict the child right after birth. Then an actor baby would be handed to the actress playing the mothers. They had a couple of episodes showing babies who were born with missing limbs due to mothers taking Thalidomide during pregnancy. CGI was used to show one such baby that lived. And a fake baby was used to show one that died shortly after.
I had forgotten about Molly O'Brien's birth. I wonder how many babies have been seen in all incarnations of Trek. On TNG there was also Troi's son Ian. There was Yoshi on DS9.
I don't remember where I heard or read about the Jello. Many TV productions probably do use CGI now. I recently finished a BBC series on Netflix called "Call the Midwife". In an article or an interview, it was talked about how a fake baby would be used to depict the child right after birth. Then an actor baby would be handed to the actress playing the mothers. They had a couple of episodes showing babies who were born with missing limbs due to mothers taking Thalidomide during pregnancy. CGI was used to show one such baby that lived. And a fake baby was used to show one that died shortly after.
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I remember reading somewhere that on baby Miral her ridges were made of an oatmeal based makeup
