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A pulsating star?

I will always believe that aliens built the pyramids...because it's just so much cooler that way. :p

I have jars of alien urine to sell you. Totally legit. :shifty:
I've never been big on souvenirs.

Hold it RIGHT there.

I am not one of those folks who 'swallow nonsense", pal. you see, I have seen many things that conventional method can not explain. Also, I seen many structures with so many mathematical redundancies, and geometry, and spending years doing my own research, leads me to say there's something going on around here. And it's odd, you mention these guys have no evidence....but the conventional, mainstream has no evidence, either...which makes the conventional 'wide eyed bullshit' as well.

Hell, I see people getting upset when someone say, for example, "possibly aliens or a high tech society, more advanced than the ancient Egyptians built it or taught the Egyptians to build them", including Zahee Hawas...he goes ballsitic when someone says that, but when he was asked how they were made, he said he does not know.

So....who do you suggest we listen to regarding alien life, hmmm?

It seems, at least in western cultures, mainly North American, that thinking even remotely outside of the conventional, or seeking some truth, always labels said folks as lunatics....like searching for the truth is a dirty thing to even consider.
Mulder is pissed.
 
Hold it RIGHT there.

I'm already done with my post. That kind of statement only really works in spoken conversation or chat.

I am not one of those folks who 'swallow nonsense", pal. you see, I have seen many things that conventional method can not explain. Also, I seen many structures with so many mathematical redundancies, and geometry, and spending years doing my own research, leads me to say there's something going on around here. And it's odd, you mention these guys have no evidence....but the conventional, mainstream has no evidence, either...which makes the conventional 'wide eyed bullshit' as well.

And I'm the Blessed Saint Patrick. Need proof? Let me show you my shillelagh.

Hell, I see people getting upset when someone say, for example, "possibly aliens or a high tech society, more advanced than the ancient Egyptians built it or taught the Egyptians to build them", including Zahee Hawas...he goes ballsitic when someone says that, but when he was asked how they were made, he said he does not know.

So....who do you suggest we listen to regarding alien life, hmmm?

Well, for starters, drop anecdotal "evidence". Let's see what's left after that.

It seems, at least in western cultures, mainly North American, that thinking even remotely outside of the conventional, or seeking some truth, always labels said folks as lunatics....like searching for the truth is a dirty thing to even consider.

Yeah, and people think homeopathy is a legitimate science. That doesn't make them right, or knowledgeable.
 
I will always believe that aliens built the pyramids...because it's just so much cooler that way. :p
Well, seeing how we jumped in intelligence in a short time from sitting in caves, eating bananas and then in a short time supposedly building pyramids, somethings a bit odd...plus I don't believe they were built for the purpose of just sticking some dead guy in. And it's amazing that Zahee Hawas gets so defensive when someone makes a suggestion of an alternative possible origin, yet he himself can not give a real explanation, either....he acts like he's trying to hide something. Hell....he goes nuts when one says the Sphinx is at least twice as old as conventionally told, yet the evidence is right in front of him, in the stone making the Sphinx and its enclosure.

Well, considering that there are hieroglyphs showing what looks to be modern aircraft, and models of what looks like winged vehicles...and the former actually having been hidden behind a stone that was covering it, and only been known because said cover stone broke off.

Also, there's a south american picture depicting a ruler sitting in some conical shaped device, including controls, and what looks to be rocket exhaust at the bottom, it is interesting.

Hell, when one sees odd structures on the moon, especially one that looks like a tetrahedral pyramid, I still want to know why have we not explored more of the moon, rather than merely spend 30 years in Earth orbit in the shuttles?
 
And I'm the Blessed Saint Patrick. Need proof? Let me show you my shillelagh.
Only if you buy me dinner and that you look like John Barrowman.

Yeah, and people think homeopathy is a legitimate science. That doesn't make them right, or knowledgeable.
Sage and Thyme always fixed me up when having a nasty cold.

And, no offense, but you don't exactly strike me as a sensible, knowledgeable person, either. That's like feces telling vomit it stinks. :p


Anyhow, any folks who wanna discuss any odd objects they saw in the sky, I'd love to hear (read?) from you. :)
 
Only if you buy me dinner and that you look like John Barrowman.

Would a shaky, out of focus photo do?

Sage and Thyme always fixed me up when having a nasty cold.

I just clap three times, while holding a crystal, and spin around the room, and my flu just disappears.

And, no offense, but you don't exactly strike me as a sensible, knowledgeable person, either. That's like feces telling vomit it stinks. :p

I never figured you would.
 
I am not one of those folks who 'swallow nonsense", pal.
Post proof or retract.

What proof would you like?

Because I can post up a bunch of mathematical properties and all that nice stuff, and it still won't satisfy anyone here, I bet, and that's if they are even going to bother reading anything posted.

So unless I hop on the bandwagon and say, "All alien/ET/UFO stuff is nonsense", no one is going to be happy with anything I say or post.
 
I am not one of those folks who 'swallow nonsense", pal.
Post proof or retract.

What proof would you like?

Because I can post up a bunch of mathematical properties and all that nice stuff, and it still won't satisfy anyone here, I bet, and that's if they are even going to bother reading anything posted.

So unless I hop on the bandwagon and say, "All alien/ET/UFO stuff is nonsense", no one is going to be happy with anything I say or post.

Post your mathematical properties.
 
I don't even understand what these "mathematical properties" might be. I'm definitely curious.
 
I don't even understand what these "mathematical properties" might be. I'm definitely curious.

Exactly. I want to see the "mathematical properties", along with his sources, he's going to use to prove positive that not only does extra-terrestrial life exist, but that it visits Earth, and has taken part in mankind's development throughout history.
 
Yeah. I'd have a good laugh at his "mathematical properties" ("properties" of what?), not to mention the "many structures with so many mathematical redundancies, and geometry", or the results of "spending years doing my own research".
 
It's some pretty awesome stuff if one has both patience and an open mind one can see in the sky.

Yes, you're so open minded that you've had multiple alien flybys of your house alone. Imagine the odds of that; crossing who knows how many light years just to fly past the same place over and over again. It's almost as if you're seeing what you want to see instead of seeing something and judging it with a skeptical mindset first before jumping to conclusions.

Oh course we all know there is no alien life, and objects that defy physics are easy to explain in nature.

It's incredibly arrogant to think that just because you can't explain something that that means it can't be explained.

Hold it RIGHT there.

I am not one of those folks who 'swallow nonsense", pal. you see, I have seen many things that conventional method can not explain. Also, I seen many structures with so many mathematical redundancies, and geometry, and spending years doing my own research, leads me to say there's something going on around here. And it's odd, you mention these guys have no evidence....but the conventional, mainstream has no evidence, either...which makes the conventional 'wide eyed bullshit' as well.

You do swallow nonsense. J. threw out some wacky beliefs at random and managed to hit the mark on crap you believe in. I've thrown out random nonsense people believe in discussions with you before and managed to hit the mark on things you think are true. It comes across like you'll just believe anything as long as it's not the simplest and most logical explanation, because that's anathema to you.

Everyone has seen structures with "mathematical redundancies and geometry." They're called every building ever constructed. Don't try and sound deep.

The "conventional mainstream" has no evidence of what? The lack of frequent alien visitation to Earth? You do know that it's impossible to absolutely prove that that's never happened, right? That doesn't mean you can't draw a conclusion with a reasonable amount of certainty.

Well, seeing how we jumped in intelligence in a short time from sitting in caves, eating bananas and then in a short time supposedly building pyramids, somethings a bit odd...plus I don't believe they were built for the purpose of just sticking some dead guy in.

Of course not. They're landing pads for Goa'uld ships. Duh.

There was no jump in intelligence in a short time that led from humans being cave dwellers to building pyramids. There was thousands of years of changing climate, development of agriculture and domestication of animals, and new construction technologies and building techniques learned through communication and trial & error.

You can plainly see the long-term progression of pyramid advancement in Egypt over a period of centuries, moving from the flat-topped mastabas to stepped pyramids to the smooth-sided pyramids like at Giza. Furthermore, you can see similar progression in pyramid design at sites around the world from the US, Central and South America, Indonesia, India, China, and more. These are sites separated by thousands of miles and thousands of years that were built after decades or centuries of individual trial and error. They were not just handed the blueprints by some otherworldly visitor at the same time.

When you were a kid, did you ever try to build a house of cards? Which worked better, building straight upwards or building a stepped pyramid design? The stepped pyramid works because it's the most stable tall structure you can build using primitive materials and techniques. Did aliens have to tell you that, or did you figure it out on your own through trial and error?

It's human nature to want to see complexity in fairly simple and straightforward things, especially if you're ignorant of the history or science behind it. That's why you get people buying into Moon landing hoaxes, Kennedy assassination and 9/11 conspiracies, and thinking that their must have been some grand divine plan behind mankind's existence instead of it being a result of trial and error over millions of years thanks to evolution.

Well, considering that there are hieroglyphs showing what looks to be modern aircraft, and models of what looks like winged vehicles...and the former actually having been hidden behind a stone that was covering it, and only been known because said cover stone broke off.

Also, there's a south american picture depicting a ruler sitting in some conical shaped device, including controls, and what looks to be rocket exhaust at the bottom, it is interesting.
So looking at it from the perspective of a historian 3,000 years from now looking back at us, that must mean the starship Enterprise is real and flying around right now, because we've depicted it pictorially and in words.

People back then had imaginations too. People back then filled in the details of what they lacked in scientific knowledge with fantastical stories and drawings explaining things they didn't understand, much like you're doing now by concluding every UFO you see must be little green men.

Hell, when one sees odd structures on the moon, especially one that looks like a tetrahedral pyramid, I still want to know why have we not explored more of the moon, rather than merely spend 30 years in Earth orbit in the shuttles?
Because it's too expensive for too little gain at this point? But no, it's far easier to conclude that we just are afraid to find out about the structures left on the Moon by our little space friends, as if we haven't mapped and photographed the surface of the Moon extensively. Do you even think about your conspiracies before saying them? Why given the amount of money spent on SETI research would we deliberately avoid seeking out proof that we are not alone in the galaxy? Why would we avoid finding new alien technologies?

And, no offense, but you don't exactly strike me as a sensible, knowledgeable person, either. That's like feces telling vomit it stinks.

J. Allen is extremely sensible and knowledgeable, and quite frankly he's running circles around you in this debate, so cool it.
 
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You know what's actually really freaky? If I really, really grew my hair out, I reckon it would look exactly like this.

It's good to know I have options. Ancient Alien options.
 
What's the point in all of you making fun of one person?

So he believes in something you don't... lets all take turns schoolyard-bullying-him, yeah, ooh, the fun! :rolleyes:
 
What's the point in all of you making fun of one person?

So he believes in something you don't... lets all take turns schoolyard-bullying-him, yeah, ooh, the fun! :rolleyes:
Drop the persecution complex. It's embarrassing.

Guy jumps out of his water, says the craziest things, challenges everybody who looks at him funny, tell us we are narrow-minded slaves to the mainstream and we are the one at fault for pointing out the obvious? Rooting for the underdog is one thing. Rooting for the rabid chihuahua is another.
 
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