A previous USS Voyager?

[F. King Daniel]

An idea keeps popping into me head and then being forgotten - do you think there were previous Starfleet ships called Voyager? Starfleet's been recycling ship names for 200 years - we've seen seven or more Enterprise's, two Defiant's, at least three Intrepid's, and looking through "Star Trek: The Art of the Film" I noticed that one of the ships was labelled "USS Excelsior NCC-1729"

Before you say "But they would have mentioned it!", remember how often Captain Kirk mentioned Archer's Enterprise, or Sisko mentioned the Defiant from "The Tholian Web" and "In a Mirror, Darkly".

 

[propita]

There were no prior starships named “Voyager” because “Voyager” as a starship name became bad luck after the disappearance of the Earth crafts--one of which later became “V’ger” and a threat to all life.

 

[Guy Gardener]

When they were spit balling for names at Starfleet HQ, someone said "Voyager?" and the instant reply was "Too soon?"

They might have called the bugger the USS Hitler and people would have been more at ease.

A lot of people died.

My only consderation was that V'ger/Dekker/Ilia(sp?) came back and saved the day when everything seemed hopeless.

In the real world it was a stupid name because of exactly the same reasons.

 

[Saquist]

Sure it's possible there are other ships named Voyager.
IF starfleet ever named ships after probes that would be easy to see.

Sojourner
Mariner
Viking
Pioneer
Spirit
Opportunity
Rosetta
Venera
Cassini
Nozomi


Voyager is the longest lasting Probe and farthest Probe still operational and reporting back to Earth.

 

[Dukhat]

Since Voyager didn't have any kind of starship history wall, or a model set of previous starships with the name, then it's unlikely that there were previous ships with that name.

 

[BillJ]

An idea keeps popping into me head and then being forgotten - do you think there were previous Starfleet ships called Voyager? Starfleet's been recycling ship names for 200 years - we've seen seven or more Enterprise's, two Defiant's, at least three Intrepid's, and looking through "Star Trek: The Art of the Film" I noticed that one of the ships was labelled "USS Excelsior NCC-1729"

Before you say "But they would have mentioned it!", remember how often Captain Kirk mentioned Archer's Enterprise, or Sisko mentioned the Defiant from "The Tholian Web" and "In a Mirror, Darkly".

I'm sure there probably was.

 

[Saquist]

Since Voyager didn't have any kind of starship history wall, or a model set of previous starships with the name, then it's unlikely that there were previous ships with that name.

For me that only means there was no prominent history.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They should have called Voyager the USS James T. Kirk.

Saquist, in the trek Timeline Voyager punked out through a timespace rift and disappeared a while back. So as a probe it was a bit of a failure, but as a instrument of vengeance and mass destruction? About par.

 

[Saquist]

Yeah but that was Voyager 6 not Voyager one.

 

[od0_ital]

They should have called Voyager the USS James T. Kirk.

If they had done that, folks would have tuned into UPN's flagship series expectin' to see William Shatner!

 

[danellis]

Either way there are plenty of reasons to name a ship Voyager.

A quick wikipedia search lists two Royal Navy and an US Navy ship to bear the name in the real world: I'm sure a more detailed search would reveal more.

We don't know what (or even if any) psychological impact the V'ger incident had on StarFleet, or the peoples of the Federation, or even how much they thought of it as the "V'ger" or "Voyager" incident.

dJE

 

[Guy Gardener]

And?

Sculpt the deflector dish to look like his face?

(there has to have been a ship at some point where the shuttles were called Kirk, Spock and McCoy?)

Voyager 6?

That's a lot of Voyagers.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Personally, I'm inclined to think that there was a Miranda-class USS Voyager sometime during the 23rd-Century. An earlier 24th-Century vessel may also have been a USS Voyager prior to Janeway's ship, IMO.

Just off the top of my head, I can think of multiple Federation starships named USS Intrepid, USS Lexington, USS Yorktown, and USS Farragut over the past century. So reusing ship names seems to be a fairly common practice in Starfleet...

 

[Galileo7]

They should have called Voyager the USS James T. Kirk.

If they had done that, folks would have tuned into UPN's flagship series expectin' to see William Shatner!

Agree, you think in the NG/DS9/VOY era of 24th century there would have been a reference to a U.S.S. KIRK.

 

[Saquist]

Either way there are plenty of reasons to name a ship Voyager.

A quick wikipedia search lists two Royal Navy and an US Navy ship to bear the name in the real world: I'm sure a more detailed search would reveal more.

We don't know what (or even if any) psychological impact the V'ger incident had on StarFleet, or the peoples of the Federation, or even how much they thought of it as the "V'ger" or "Voyager" incident.

dJE

Interesting, I didn't know that.

 

[C.E. Evans]

They should have called Voyager the USS James T. Kirk.

If they had done that, folks would have tuned into UPN's flagship series expectin' to see William Shatner!

Agree, you think in the NG/DS9/VOY era of 24th century there would have been a reference to a U.S.S. KIRK.

It's a pretty big Galaxy, out there, IMO. Not every ship in the fleet can be given a "shout out", especially if they might be deployed on the other side of the Federation.

It's also possible that it might be Starfleet policy to name shuttlecraft after notable figures in its own history. Shuttlepod #12 aboard the Enterprise-D was called the Pike, so Shuttlepod #13 might have been called...

 

[Guy Gardener]

However, was kirk missing or dead? Do they name Shuttles after living people?

Who the frak had the "river" fixation on DS9? Was that starfleet or Sisko?

 

[Galileo7]

However, was kirk missing or dead? Do they name Shuttles after living people?

Who the frak had the "river" fixation on DS9? Was that starfleet or Sisko?

Starfleet, Danube runabouts are named after rivers. The Yellowstone class runabout (VOY "Non Sequitur") are named after parks.

 

[Dukhat]

However, was kirk missing or dead? Do they name Shuttles after living people?

Who the frak had the "river" fixation on DS9? Was that starfleet or Sisko?

Starfleet, Danube runabouts are named after rivers. The Yellowstone class runabout (VOY "Non Sequitur") are named after parks.

You do know that the Yellowstone is also a river, don't you?

 

[Guy Gardener]

The river woudn't be yellow if it wasn't for the bears in the park.