A Modest Proposal To End The Fandom Feud Forever

[CorporalCaptain]

That can definitely happen.

It's a family get-together time for sure, and the special was aired less than a week before Thanksgiving in November 1978.

 

[RandyS]

That’s your version of our Christmas, right? Where the family gets together, stuffs their faces, drinks endlessly, then screams a lifetimes worth of grievances at each other?

Because that still sounds about right.

No, that's called Sunday dinner.

As for The Holiday Special, Say what you will about it (Its been years since I watched it (I own a copy), and don't remember all of it, but it's Shakespeare compared to the Sequel Trilogy.

But then, what isnt?

 

[Awesome Possum]

That’s your version of our Christmas, right? Where the family gets together, stuffs their faces, drinks endlessly, then screams a lifetimes worth of grievances at each other?

Because that still sounds about right.

Thanksgiving is a tense affair. Family is brought together under the same roof. Nerves are on edge because you just know that one uncle is a shrinking number away from a racist rant, the family drama eluded to and in hushed tones but knowing that soon it will lead to a confrontation and every attempt to keep the peace is crushed.

But deep fried turkey is great.

 

[Awesome Possum]

No, that's called Sunday dinner.

As for The Holiday Special, Say what you will about it (Its been years since I watched it (I own a copy), and don't remember all of it, but it's Shakespeare compared to the Sequel Trilogy.

But then, what isnt?

Keep interfandom feuding out of this. It has no place here.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I'm pretty sure that the alien in the Art Carney provided VR porn is a Movellan from "Destiny of the Daleks." Crossover!

 

[JD]

3 It's a Wonderful Life It's weird but I haven't seen it in awhile yet growing up it was on all the time.

I'm 31 years old, and I've still never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

 

[Jayson1]

I'm 31 years old, and I've still never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

I think that means you might have skipped the years in which ever channel seemed to show it. I guess nobody own the rights or something because everyone seemed to be able to play it if I am remembering the 80's right. Did you grow up during the NBC days when it would air just once a year on NBC around Christmas? I'm not even sure who owns it right now or if any streaming service has it.

Speaking of Christmas traditions has NBA basketball on Christmas now officially count as a tradition? I've gotten use to it and while it's not on par with NFL Football on Thanksgiving it's something I usually watch some of.

Jason

 

[fireproof78]

I'm 31 years old, and I've still never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

It's worth seeing once, I would say. If only to get a sense of its place in pop culture.

I think that means you might have skipped the years in which ever channel seemed to show it. I guess nobody own the rights or something because everyone seemed to be able to play it if I am remembering the 80's right. Did you grow up during the NBC days when it would air just once a year on NBC around Christmas? I'm not even sure who owns it right now or if any streaming service has it.

Speaking of Christmas traditions has NBA basketball on Christmas now officially count as a tradition? I've gotten use to it and while it's not on par with NFL Football on Thanksgiving it's something I usually watch some of.

Jason

It's either NBA or "A Christmas Story" playing usually.

 

[Campe]

I'm 31 years old, and I've still never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

I do not understand the love of IAWL and reccomend avoiding it. It’s quite overrated in my opinion.

 

[fireproof78]

I do not understand the love of IAWL and reccomend avoiding it. It’s quite overrated in my opinion.

It's a modern day fairy tale is all it is.

 

[Campe]

It's a modern day fairy tale is all it is.

Not sure you can call a movie from 1946 “modern day.”

Just saying.

Seriously, I agree. And maybe it was because it was pushed on me by parents and grandparents as a child but it just never appealed to me. But yes, definitely a fairy tale.

 

[mos6507]

I do not understand the love of IAWL and reccomend avoiding it. It’s quite overrated in my opinion.

It's the movie equivalent of Stairway to Heaven in the sense that it doesn't deserve to be hated just because of overexposure.

I don't think of it as a christmas movie, though. The actual amount of screentime spent around christmas is small. It's a guy's entire life, basically a novel crammed into a movie.

 

[Admiral2]

Star Wars fans are more divided than ever. OT fans hate PT fans and ST fans. PT fans hate everything, especially Mr. Plinkett. ST fans are just happy to be here like golden retrievers. Some hate ROTJ, some TLJ and everyone hates AOTC. But we can unite on one thing and one thing only, a "film" that defiles all that is good. More an entity than a movie, a creation that defies all logic and understanding.

I speak of course of The Star Wars Holiday Special. It being both close to the 40th anniversary of it's one and only airing and a dark time for Star Wars fans, it is a perfect time to watch it in it's entirety. I propose we do this to truly understand what bad Star Wars is because it is Star Wars at it's absolute worst in ways that someone who has never seen it is incapable of comprehending. We must do this for the good of the fandom and the franchise, a penance for our division when we should be united, and a reminder that things can get far worse than we dare to imagine.

So join me in misery and stare into the depths of obscure Star Wars media. This is our cave on Dagobath, a test against the Dark Side. What will we find? Only what we take with us.

Yeah, I saw this first run. I ain't subjecting myself to that again. The fandom can stay splintered for all I care.

 

[JD]

I think that means you might have skipped the years in which ever channel seemed to show it. I guess nobody own the rights or something because everyone seemed to be able to play it if I am remembering the 80's right. Did you grow up during the NBC days when it would air just once a year on NBC around Christmas? I'm not even sure who owns it right now or if any streaming service has it.

Well, I was barely alive in the '80s, and I don't really like to watch movies on TV since they edit things out, I do either DVDs/Blu-Rays or Streaming. I'll watch movies if I know for a fact they're completely uncut, but that's it.

 

[Jayson1]

Well, I was barely alive in the '80s, and I don't really like to watch movies on TV since they edit things out, I do either DVDs/Blu-Rays or Streaming. I'll watch movies if I know for a fact they're completely uncut, but that's it.

I also don't like watching movies on tv or at least on places were I know edit things as well. When I was younger though I didn't really do that simply because you didn't really have the options you do today. What's worst is when you notice things that shouldn't be edited for any logical reason. When I saw the BBC America edit TNG episodes it really pissed me off. No reason those should be edited. They were already kind of short compared to networks shows of that era doing to it being a syndicated show and also your clearly not going to have to deal with cussing and stuff like that. Felt like a beyond greedy kind of thing to do.


Jason

 

[LJones41]

PT fans hate everything, especially Mr. Plinkett. ST fans are just happy to be here like golden retrievers. Some hate ROTJ, some TLJ and everyone hates AOTC.

I hate this kind of generalization. And I hate assumptions like the above.

I'm a PT fan. I'm also a fan of the OT and the Disney stand alone films. "AOTC" is one of my top two Star Wars movies, along with "TESB". And I realize that many fans hate to admit this, but there are many other fans of "AOTC". Why keep making these generalizations?

 

[Jayson1]

I hate this kind of generalization. And I hate assumptions like the above.

I'm a PT fan. I'm also a fan of the OT and the Disney stand alone films. "AOTC" is one of my top two Star Wars movies, along with "TESB". And I realize that many fans hate to admit this, but there are many other fans of "AOTC". Why keep making these generalizations?

I think the majority of people disagree. Not that they are wrong or your wrong. Just that it's subjective and it's simply easier to just list the overall majority sentiment then get bogged down in the details.

Jason

 

[fireproof78]

I hate this kind of generalization. And I hate assumptions like the above.

I'm a PT fan. I'm also a fan of the OT and the Disney stand alone films. "AOTC" is one of my top two Star Wars movies, along with "TESB". And I realize that many fans hate to admit this, but there are many other fans of "AOTC". Why keep making these generalizations?

Why generalize about what many fans hate to admit? It cuts both ways

 

[Awesome Possum]

I hate this kind of generalization. And I hate assumptions like the above.

I'm a PT fan. I'm also a fan of the OT and the Disney stand alone films. "AOTC" is one of my top two Star Wars movies, along with "TESB". And I realize that many fans hate to admit this, but there are many other fans of "AOTC". Why keep making these generalizations?

I'm sorry, I've gotten the impression that it's the most hated of all the films. But I guess that some would enjoy it. I didn't intend any offense, it was just an easy target.

 

[Gaith]

AotC is garbage, but, between the relative lack of Jar-Jar, Portman's outfits, and the general dull, depressing awfulness that is RotS, it's at the very least upbeat, entertaining garbage. Heck, there are even fan edits that make it fairly watchable.