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A missed opportunity for Vic Fontaine

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I was sorting through some older music on Youtube around Christmas and found a gem called "Goodbye Cruel World" by James Darren, obviously a great hit in 1961-62.

As we all know, James Darren was playing Vic Fontaine on Deep Space Nine.

It would have been great if he had performed that song in the series, maybe with Odo playing the ocarina. :techman:
 
Well, in the end it was Odo who left Kira, so the self-pitying-male voice in “Goodbye cruel world” wouldn’t apply….

I just wish Vic’s duet with Sisko was a more melodious song than “The best is yet to come.”

To me, the missed musical opportunity was never showing Sisko play jazz piano like Brooks really can (or used to at least).
 
Well, in the end it was Odo who left Kira, so the self-pitying-male voice in “Goodbye cruel world” wouldn’t apply….

I just wish Vic’s duet with Sisko was a more melodious song than “The best is yet to come.”

To me, the missed musical opportunity was never showing Sisko play jazz piano like Brooks really can (or used to at least).
Well, maybe "Goodbye Cruel World" could have been a better choice for In The Pale Moonlight.
And we still could have had Odo playing the ocarina.
Anyway, it would have been great if they had used it in the series.
 
I wonder if Vic had to go mine dilithium with all the EMHs after the series ended. Maybe he could sing that song while he's swinging his pickaxe or however miners mine.
 
I wonder if Vic had to go mine dilithium with all the EMHs

I doubt it.

The EMH Mark I's had to go for mining duty because 1) they were being replaced by newer models, and 2) arguably they weren't sentient, unlike Vic.

Vic wasn't being replaced by anybody, he was there because he wanted to be - and because DS9 personnel liked him.
 
If the EMHs all had to become miners, wouldn't it have been easier to just change their shape or whatever. Couldn't one EMH have just turned himself into a big drill. One could have become a truck, one a conveyor belt. A bunch could have become the Rat Pack and one could have become Vic Fontaine and sung that song the OP was talking about. (See, I circled back to the topic).
 
Ah, don't worry "Niners" and other Star Trek fans!

At station Deep Space Nine, dreams come true!

Just tune in and see Vic Fontaine performing "Goodbye Cruel World" with Odo on ocarina and the famous song group Kes And The Kestrels provide the harmonies! :techman:

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I was sorting through some older music on Youtube around Christmas and found a gem called "Goodbye Cruel World" by James Darren, obviously a great hit in 1961-62.

As we all know, James Darren was playing Vic Fontaine on Deep Space Nine.

It would have been great if he had performed that song in the series, maybe with Odo playing the ocarina. :techman:

His whole character added nothing to DS9. DS9 already had a bar did not need another one with a sentient hologram... DS9 lost it in it's last two seasons the story line and episodes were hit and miss...
 
To me, the missed musical opportunity was never showing Sisko play jazz piano like Brooks really can (or used to at least).
He did! Brooks played Round Midnight in the opening of Season 7(at his father's restaurant, when the ball rolls off the piano).

I always loved C Bryan Jones' suggestion: there should have been a piano in Sisko's office instead of a desk, and he should have been playing when talking with the crew.
 
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So, like, I hate the holodeck. Not the concept of it, that's great, just how they (over)used it all the time. If they had just put holo-emitters in 10-Forward (and I just winced recalling what Picard did to that name), or Quark's, they could have had those performers - Vic Fontane, the comedian, etc. - actually be performing in a REAL setting, instead of the holodeck. What a waste. Hell, they could even have the Creature Cantina Band (from SW) playing there! We could have had duets with Spock playing his Lyre and Data playing the violin in Quark's bar. But nope, you got to go to the deathtrap holodeck to see any of the good stuff.
 
The EMH Mark I's "fate" was beyond stupid. Has the Federation possessed an ounce of intelligence, they'd have simply sold or distributed the programs to wealthy people who could afford holo-emitters at home, and wanted a 24-hour physician available.
 
Actually, a better question.

At the end of "AUTHOR, AUTHOR", how are the Mark Is, which are holograms, able to work and mine inside an asteroid?

The only possibility I can think of is Starfleet was able to reverse engineer the mobile emitter for use in the Alpha Quadrant. I don't remember seeing any of them with mobile emitters, though.

(One reason I thought of this was the caption at the end had about a year later from the episode, and Voyager obviously got home well before that amount of time. Starfleet could have studied the real deal, or even just replicated it. We know replicators can do this because Quark was going to replicate Eris' collar at the end of DS9's "THE JEM'HADAR".)
 
The only possibility I can think of is Starfleet was able to reverse engineer the mobile emitter for use in the Alpha Quadrant. I don't remember seeing any of them with mobile emitters, though.

It's more likely they put hole emitters inside the asteroid mine... but why? Automated mining machinery would be far more efficient.
 
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