Either way, that last scene raised far too many questions for the point of the episode to mean anything. It would have been better if that scene never happened.
A missed opportunity for Vic Fontaine
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If small enterprises such as Quark's could afford them, why not wealthy individuals? (Or do you mean that 'wealthy individuals' as such are not a thing in the 24th century? We do see those, at least outside the Federation.)
@at Quark's I mean wealthy individuals, atleast within the Federation.
I have to disagree here.
I think that the two last seasons are as good as the previous ones and I do thinkt that Vic Fontaine added a lot to the show.
A sentient hologram that can roam DS9 at will is silliness. If they wanted a lounge lizard that could have expanded Quarks and added a lounge lizard singing hologram. They used the holodecks for adventure which was silly as well... It was all lazy writing... The baseball game was silliness too... I could go on... Its obvious the creator and writers were bored with DS9 and just wrote to get paid... They were just trying to get to the 7 year finish line with little creative effort used... The question is why did the Star Trek overseer's allow it...
Silliness? In Star Trek????? *clutches pearls*
I don't find it silly.
Even a good action series need some lighter moments now and then.
I liked "Take Me Out to the Holosuite". I wouldn't want every episode being a game, but I like the occassional light one. Besides, it could have been worse. The holosuite could have trapped them all there and threatened to destroy the station sector quadrant galaxy universe if they didn't do something within 30 seconds.
He was a superfluous addition to the show. I will never understand the reasoning why they thought something like Vic Fontaine was needed so late in the show. I do agree that the last two seasons, minus Vic episodes anyway, were very entertaining
...Fun?
Vic Fontaine almost ruined DS9. A super genius computer program that is also a lounge Vegas singer? Besides, what flaws does Vic Fontaine have? Absolutely none, because apparently he's perfect, everybody loves him and he knows everything! He's symptomatic to the problems the later seasons had, but that's a whole another subject.
Not only he was being introduced too late into the show, he's also a massive clash in the tone. "Oh, we're in this middle of this terrible and devastating war, so... how about if we spend 45 minutes hanging around with this hologram? Isn't he cool? Look, he can sing like Sinatra! He's also a self aware hologram! Surely we never ever seen that!". The equivalent of Vic Fontaine would be if in the last season of TNG, the Ten Foward completely vanishes and in its place we have an Old West themed joint ran by a stereotypical bartender that only talks about drinks, duels and horses. It would look kinda ridiculous, wouldn't?
DS9 already had light moments and Quark's bar, so why the hell was Vic Fontaine needed? Things like that really make me lower my appreciation for DS9, even though it had all the potential to avoid the usual trappings that the other Trek shows from this era followed.
Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get this out of my system.
Not only he was being introduced too late into the show, he's also a massive clash in the tone. "Oh, we're in this middle of this terrible and devastating war, so... how about if we spend 45 minutes hanging around with this hologram? Isn't he cool? Look, he can sing like Sinatra! He's also a self aware hologram! Surely we never ever seen that!". The equivalent of Vic Fontaine would be if in the last season of TNG, the Ten Foward completely vanishes and in its place we have an Old West themed joint ran by a stereotypical bartender that only talks about drinks, duels and horses. It would look kinda ridiculous, wouldn't?
DS9 already had light moments and Quark's bar, so why the hell was Vic Fontaine needed? Things like that really make me lower my appreciation for DS9, even though it had all the potential to avoid the usual trappings that the other Trek shows from this era followed.
Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get this out of my system.
I got so bored with DS9 with the constant Klingon soap opera after Worf joined the show, plus the war. Vic Fontaine was a breath of fresh air, and it was a treat to discover that James Darren can sing.
I used to watch him on Time Tunnel; his character was my favorite in that show.
I used to watch him on Time Tunnel; his character was my favorite in that show.
For me, the Vic Fontaine character added little to nothing to the show. But I also do have to say I feel little affinity or cultural 'connect' with this form of entertainment of the era he represented. It might have been different for me otherwise.
Personally I think that most of DS9 is absolutely great, including Vic Fontaine.
I find him sympathetic in many ways.
Sure they could have. Let's give writers some credit here. They know a thing or two about crafting stories and someone certainly could have done it without Vic.
I enjoyed DS9 but not all of it
I've made my feelings about Vic known but I also didn't care for many of the Ferengi episodes, especially any involving the Nagus and Quark's mother but my real problem with Ferengi started in TNG when the race was turned into mostly comic relief. Such wasted potential.
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I think the DS9 characters deserved their musical and baseball episodes because of the war.
Go watch Voyager, please.
Go watch Voyager, please.
Voyager was good in the first three seasons.
The series had a good premise but was hampered by bad writing.
However, DS9 had better character and overall story development due to better writers.
Kes' departure allowed Neelix to grow up and become a more serious character, without all the jealousy issues he had when Kes was still on the ship.
I wonder if people would have liked the Voyager holodeck episodes more if they'd had an entertainer like Vic (not identical, but the idea of a singer in a venue). Most of the holodeck programs we saw were either created by Tom or the Doctor or one of Janeway's stupid gothic romance novels.