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A Journey

Here's my summation of season two. Over all it averages out to a C just like season one.

The Measure of a Man A
Q Who? A
Elementry Dear data B
A Matter of Honor B-
The Emissary B-
Where Silence has Lease C+
The Outrageous Okona C+
The Schizoid Man C+
The Royale C+
The Icarus Factor C+
Pen Pals C+
Peak Performance C+
Manhunt C
Unnatural Selection C-
Contagion C-
Time Squared C-
Up The Long Ladder C-
The Child D+
Samaritan Snare D+
The Dauphin D
Shades of Gray D-
Loud as a Whisper F-


So far my favroites from the first two seasons are below, ranked as to how I graded them.

Q Who? A
The Measure of a Man A
11001001 B+
Conspiracy B
Elementry Dear Data B
A Matter of Honor B-
Datalore B-
The Big Goodbye B-
The Emissary B-
We’ll Always Have Paris B-
Where No One Has Gone Before B-
 
I had another mini marathon tonight. I'm slowly catching up even though I will still be on Season 2 when you guys start season 3. Anyway

Unnatural Selection

The weakest episode in the set even though I still kind of like it mainly because it highlighted Pulaski. I thought Pulaski was a great fill in on TNG during the second season and you can see her dedication and commitment shine well in this episode trying to find out the cause of the aging virus. The make up left a lot to be desired, but I liked the scientific curiousity of this show and Pulaski's logs when she was about to die and her final one.

Matter of Honor

I like this episode, but it loses some of it's luster with age I think. The things I didn't like in this show were Mendon and the Klingon Captain being a dumbass. I know they needed conflict, but of the Klingons we've seen in TNG so far (Worf included) no one has come to the complexity of Kang, or Kor. I think the treatment of the Klingons gets better with K'heylar (And yes I always misspell that name) but right now, it just seemed like the writers needed something to give the episode some drama. I did like the second in command guy better. Also, with Mendon, I am not a fan of the Benzites. They're like the Gorn in a sense in that they are a one hit wonder that should not have been brought back. However, I do see where they were trying to go with it being the Starfleet exchange program, but I just didn't like him.

However, this episode rocks in other ways and makes it still a Season 2 favorite. I loved Riker trying out the Klingon cuisine in ten forward. That was classic and funny. Also, Riker's talk in the mess with the Klingons actually getting to know Klingon culture better was great because it expanded them a lot more.

I do have a question though. The klingon second in command said that his father was kidnapped by Romulans and is now back on Quo'nos dying a slow death. It was also said that work is much more important than family. Did this hold true throughout the series despite Worf being so uncomfortable with Alexander because he had to bear the dishonor of Mogh being accused of treason? It seems like family is very important in Klingon culture.

Overall great episode but loses some with age.

Measure of a Man

This episode probably gets more awesome with age. Everyone talks about Picards examination and while it's great, I agree with Old Mixer in that it was really set up by Rikers. Frakes did an awesome job and Riker made a lot of convincing arguments. The scene at the end with Data was very very cool. All time TNG Classic.

I hope to watch more tomorrow.
 
The Dauphin

It's been a long time since I've seen this episode. It wasn't as bad as I remembered, but it wasn't as good either. I loved the scenes with Wes getting love advise from the other officers (Like Worf :lol: ) and the scene in Ten Forward with Riker, Guinan and Wes. However, I agree that the monsters looked really bad and just really fake. It almost felt like watching The Arena and a big guy in a suit.
 
So far, I've seen at least one positive element for each episode from the first two seasons that I've sworn off watching in their entirety. Thanks very much! There's only one episode in Season 3 that I feel needs redemption: "The Price." I look forward to what good things people have to say about that one. It's actually not "bad," but it is slow and dumb.
 
You guys may be overtaking me soon, as I'm stalled around 3x06 because I've been watching my Young Indiana Jones DVDs.

tomalak301 said:
Also, with Mendon, I am not a fan of the Benzites. They're like the Gorn in a sense in that they are a one hit wonder that should not have been brought back.
Really? I liked that they were revisiting friendly aliens, and felt the makeup here was a lot more imaginative than what we wound up getting for the bulk of modern Trek.

I do have a question though. The klingon second in command said that his father was kidnapped by Romulans and is now back on Quo'nos dying a slow death. It was also said that work is much more important than family. Did this hold true throughout the series despite Worf being so uncomfortable with Alexander because he had to bear the dishonor of Mogh being accused of treason? It seems like family is very important in Klingon culture.
It certainly was to Ron Moore, and since he wound up writing what became a series of definitive Klingon episodes, the "duty is more important than family" angle was dropped. Sounds more like it belongs with the TNG Romulans, but the writers were still figuring out how to differentiate the two at this point.
 
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The TOS Romulans are more like the TNG Klingons than the TNG Romulans, and the TOS Klingons are more like the TNG Romulans than the TNG Klingons. It's all terribly confusing. Reputedly both have to do with a memo Ron Moore wrote about Klingon and Romulan culture early in the third season, which added to 'Sins of the Father' gave him the nickname of 'the Klingon guy.'

Benzites are pretty cool though. :)
 
I'm looking forward to watching "Who Watches the Watchers" again, one of my favorites as far as their message shows go.
 
Also, it was the last TNG episode to refer to Pulaski. ;)

Good episode though. TNG was the best of the Trek shows when it came to messages, because it had Patrick Stewart to deliver them.
 
Watched 'Galaxy's Child' today. Poor Geordi has no luck with the women or what! That was hilarious when Leah sees his holodeck program with her. HAH!! When Troi says the alien thinks the Enterprise is it's mother Riker just grins. Picard ignored poor Worf's advice once again. :lol:
 
The Old Mixer said:
Kegek said:
Also, it was the last TNG episode to refer to Pulaski.
You've said that before. Didn't Moriarty ask about her in "Ship in a Bottle"?

IIRC no, but she was paged in "Endgame." I remember being quite amused at the time. :)
 
Smiley said:
I'm pretty sure "Ethics" is the last reference to the older good doctor on TNG.

Is it? I watched it a month or two ago and don't recall hearing anything, but I could be wrong. How cool would that episode had been, though, had the new doctor who came onboard and got on Crusher's nerves... actually was Pulaski? Her hard, no-nonsense attitude reminded me of the good doctor in some ways.

And in a show that gave us the identical Romulan daughter of a time-travelling alternate universe version of Tasha Yar, they have no right to complain about convenient coincidences. ;)
 
Today's episode. "Night Terrors" UGH! One of my most hated episodes if not the most. Troi floating in that whatever and that voice saying "Eyes in the dark...one moon circles..." And Troi goes, "Where are you?" ACK!! Although there was that cool scene in the morgue where all the bodies are sitting up and freaking Dr. Crusher out. And the end where Data orders Captain Picard to sleep. But UGH I hate that episode. That's some messed up stuff.
:wtf: :brickwall:
 
Night Terrors is one of my favorites. One of TNG's patented high concept sci-fi mysteries. The atmosphere was outstanding, the various character moments(Worf's suicidal actions, Troi and Data saving the day, Riker acting like an irritable child, Guinan whipping out her giant phaser rifle, Picard fearing for the loss of his mind which was nice continuity following his experience with the Borg and nice unintentional foreshadowing of the Irumodic Syndrome etc).

I loved the payoff with the riddle of hydrogen and the binary system being the eyes in the dark. Just great. TNG was the best at these shows-The Survivors, Clues, Remember Me, Cause and Effect, Phantasms, Genesis, Conundrum, Power Play, Parallels.
 
Well, I promised myself that I would try to get caught up to you guys during this thanksgiving holiday and I did something I would probably only do with DS9 and the Occupation Arc: watch 6 episodes in one sitting. I don’t think I’ve been that devoted to Trek in a long time, but I digress. ;)

Contagion

I love this episode and always have. We see Picard’s first hobby appear for the first time, and that is one of the best hooks in Trek teaser lore. Seeing the Yomato blown up like that was really cool, yet somehow terrifying. One of TNG’s great strengths is the whole mystery aspect to the show, and it was full of it here. You have the showdown with the Romulans (Better used here than Neutral Zone), Picard, Data, and Worf on the surface discovering the gateway, and just the weirdness of it all. I also loved Geordi in the turbolift. :lol:

I think if I have only one minor complaint about this episode, it’s that the solution is a tad bit too obvious (And we were going back to season 1 quality in competency, which isn’t good) upon looking at the entire episode as a whole. With a virus, one of the first things you do is shut down the system, yet it took them so long to come to that. Of course you have to suspend logic for story and the mystery so this was only minor but it is one thing I scratch my head about lately whenever I see this show. Still, it’s one of my favorites from the season.

The Royale

Many people don’t like this episode, but I thought it was hella cool. I mean it’s an interesting concept to be trapped in a bad novel and at the time it was pretty unique. However, what saves this episode for me is the end when Riker, Data and Worf turn into the foreign investors. I love Riker’s reactions to everything, and Data with the dice was great. Also, the blues score really helped the scene immensely.

Time Squared

This episode is weird and I mean that in a good way. It was interesting seeing Picard, who usually takes a more diplomatic, logical explaination to everything, feel so useless with his double lying right there in front of him. Also, the stuff between Pulaski and Troi was great too. However, I didn’t really like the fact that future Picard was stuck in one loop. I mean if his body clock matches up with the event, than wouldn’t that give him the ability to make decisions and maybe even take a different choice. Also, there was talk about the other Picard’s reactions to our Picard and I wish I saw this episode sooner because it was an interesting debate. It would have been much better if both picards had there own mechanisms in tacked. It would have made a much better ending IMO.

The Icarus Factor

I guess this episode is a guilty pleasure for me, since most others don’t like it too much. I love this episode even though the stuff between Kyle and Will was clichéd. It was just fun seeing them fight, and then seeing Worf go through the anniversary was the highlight of the episode. Loved Worf’s “Be Gone” scene in Ten Forward. :lol:

Pen Pals

I think this episode gets better with age. Yes Sarjinka is still ugly looking and I’ve seen photos of Nikki Cox to ask the question what have the Trek writers done to her, but I enjoyed what this episode was about. It was about the Prime Directive and how far do we go until we start playing gods. The philosophical debate, as only TNG could do it, was great again. As for the B-plot with Wesley, I could take it or leave it. I appreciate the fact that Wes was really starting to just be a teenager and not all smart and everything like he was in Season 1. Maybe that is why I like him. As for Picard and Mr. Ed, that was a cute horse. Patrick Stewart really does wear it well. ;)

Q Who?

What can I say about Q Who that hasn’t already been said. There’s been so much episodes about the Borg in Trek lore, yet the early ones like this one and Best of Both Worlds make the Borg scary while the other ones make them lose a bit of luster. This was just an awesome episode, and my second favorite in the season in between Measure of a Man and Contagion that I’ve seen in this Journey thread.

I hope to watch more Tonight (Post thanksgiving) and still plan on starting Season 3 this weekend. Wait for me. ;)
 
tomalak301 said:
I think if I have only one minor complaint about this episode, it’s that the solution is a tad bit too obvious (And we were going back to season 1 quality in competency, which isn’t good) upon looking at the entire episode as a whole. With a virus, one of the first things you do is shut down the system, yet it took them so long to come to that.
Hey, a lot of us didn't have computers yet in 1989, so it was new to me!
 
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Indeed, TNG's somewhat dated view of computer's is a generation gap. I'm mainly bugged by how hard it is to cross-analyse data. Take 'The Naked Now': They know the case involved people showering fully clothed and a previous Enterprise. Googling it they'd find that in five minutes. No google in the future?

Still, what they got right outweighs what they didn't, I think. :) I also think "Night Terrors" is a good and underrated episode. Kind of creepy atmosphere. So there.
 
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