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A Hundred years on, who was more famous? Chef or Archer?

Guy Gardener

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Okay, John Gill may have said that Archer was the greatest Explorer of the 22nd century, but that nut invented a planet sized Nazi theme park. So really, what did Archer do? He found planets which already had people on them and made friends... Maybe he founded the Federation, Maybe he started the Earth Romulan War and maybe he won the damn thing?

He sounds pretty damn famous, no?

Do you know why Franis Bacon is famous and remembered 400 years later? he discovered the Potato. The greatest explorer of the 17 century is remembered for changing the dietary habots of the civilized world, and not for messing about in boats. Exploration might be neat, but it was chef sniffing, licking scanning, and discovering new foods and how to cook it on all the planets which Jonathan took him to... And like I was saying a week ago about Archer naming planets after himself and his crew...

Chef was naming food, becoming synomomus with certain alien foods on a law of averages likely to be introduced successfully into the human diet, and more so in the preparation of those meats, vegetables, herbs and spices that entire dishes and courses would be named after Chef and be honoured after himself and crew. Even snacks.

As Sarah Silverman said a couple weeks back, he probably discovered the new "milk" by licking or eating something other people thought was gross.

Archer might have been changing the shape if the empire, but Chef was changing the contents of their belly. A hundred years on, who was more famous?
 
Chef.

Not for any of the reasons listed above, but simply because he was played by Jonathan Frakes in "TATV". You don't see Will Riker making believe he's Captain Archer, do you? ;)
 
I actually think that chef wrote a book or something exaggerating his role on the ship. That being said, I don't think he's more famous than the captain, he's just one of the few sources on the captain.
 
Re: A Hundred years on, who was more famous? Chef or Archer

chef because he created all the bizarre colorful cube food.
unfortunately in his later years he got ahold of the wrong type of mushroom went a wonky and wrote several crazed stories about his supposed time on enterprise.
 
Re: A Hundred years on, who was more famous? Chef or Archer

Guy Gardener said:
Do you know why Franis Bacon is famous and remembered 400 years later? he discovered the Potato. The greatest explorer of the 17 century is remembered for changing the dietary habots of the civilized world, and not for messing about in boats.
Er ... no, he didn't, and isn't. Francis Bacon is remembered for his writing, principally, with bon mots such as ``knowledge is power'' and for advancing the modern formulation of the scientific method for understanding the world. He's also remembered for being accused of being William Shakespeare, for those people who seriously think Shakespeare didn't write the Shakespeare plays. As far as I can tell he didn't explore anything and I can't find specific evidence that he ever left Great Britain.

You may be thinking of Francis Drake, who was a great explorer and pirate, but he's remembered for defeating the Spanish Armada and for being the first English navigator to circumnavigate the globe if you don't count John de Mandeville. Drake didn't bring the potato to Europe either, as it was already a staple crop at the time of the destruction of the 1588 Spanish Armada.
 
Re: A Hundred years on, who was more famous? Chef or Archer

See! EXACTLY!

It took 2 days a hundred views for someone to notice or to care to correct me. How intune with Archer and Chefs life histories will the 23rd and 24th century be that any one would fall for such an cock up as These are the Voyagers as a Therapy program?

I googled, and Franci Drake was one of many people to have claimed to have discovered the Potato. This of course I had no doubt about since his likeness was used in the second seaosn of Black Adder set in Elizabeth I's court I viewed a month back for the 40th time.

I merely confused a Pig with a Duck.
 
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