A fun movie with horrifying implications

[fireproof78]

The little alien made peace with the Federation, he even attended the party without his pants on. He was one happy pervert. As for the rest, well if a cadet can be Captain of the flagship overnight, Khan/Harrison can beam to Kronos in one day, and it takes five minutes to get to Vulcan then anything is possible. PTSD can be cured with Saurian brandy and a good time party.

I think that was established in "Wolf in the Fold."

 

[The Wormhole]

I'd assume that they're supposed to be the same people since Le and Wolff's crew file pictures used the same actors who played Manas and Kalara.

Likewise, that was probably the intended symbolism of having their pictures with Edison's at the end, here's the three main villains as they were when they were human.

 

[wayoung]

The little alien made peace with the Federation, he even attended the party without his pants on. He was one happy pervert. As for the rest, well if a cadet can be Captain of the flagship overnight, Khan/Harrison can beam to Kronos in one day, and it takes five minutes to get to Vulcan then anything is possible. PTSD can be cured with Saurian brandy and a good time party.

The alien being at the party is pretty meaningless. It's irrelevant to the larger political situation. Throughout history any high level government prisoner has traditionally been treated extremely well, from fancy accommodations to frequent dinner parties with their captives. This is for multiple reasons. The first to ensure the same should the positions be flipped. Second, to prevent further agitation between the states by mistreating prisoners. Third, to ensure the prisoner is happy and healthy when time comes to collect the ransom.

Kirk addressed a group of warlike planetary leaders. Kirk got in a physical first with said leaders. Kirk fled, taking several leaders with him and, even though he could have immediately returned them, did not, instead closing to kidnap them and take them to Yorktown. Hard to see that being cleared up overnight.

As for the PTSD and other trauma, that's the thing - in all the Trek series (including the Kelvinverse) it's still present - from Decker and Garth to Nog. We know there's no easy cure for it, or if it is it's not used for some reason. Trek is inconsistent in it, true, but it's there so the implication is they must be doing something bordering on mind control (if not outright crossing that border) for the Ent crew.

Likewise, that was probably the intended symbolism of having their pictures with Edison's at the end, here's the three main villains as they were when they were human.

I agree, the other posters convinced me it's supposed to be the same three but it's open enough someone could retconning it away should future writers wish to.

 

[Nyotarules]

It would be difficult to retcon it away since Krall started to look like Edison near the end after he 'ate' some Enterprise crew. If they were not part of his gang, then who were they? Why show their faces?

 

[wayoung]

It would be difficult to retcon it away since Krall started to look like Edison near the end after he 'ate' some Enterprise crew. If they were not part of his gang, then who were they? Why show their faces?

Could be who I thought they were until people explained otherwise - past victims of Krall's piracy who converted to his philosophy. Like the ones that attacked Scotty and Jayla.

Why sho their faces? They were closing out the mystery of the Franklin. They were in the Franklin crew. That's all.

Compared to other things Trek has retconned this is nothing

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Kirk addressed a group of warlike planetary leaders. Kirk got in a physical first with said leaders. Kirk fled, taking several leaders with him and, even though he could have immediately returned them, did not, instead closing to kidnap them and take them to Yorktown. Hard to see that being cleared up overnight.

So then there is the possibility those aliens may attack Yorktown with their assault fleet. Their tiny, tiny assault fleet.

Imagine all the yellow shirts that are going to get ripped in the ensuing boarding action!

Trek is inconsistent in it, true, but it's there so the implication is they must be doing something bordering on mind control (if not outright crossing that border) for the Ent crew.

And I said upthread this is a real possibility. At least, it is not without precedent:

"You feel no guilt for surviving the destruction of the Enterprise.
You understand you had no control of the circumstances of that mission.
You understand that what happened happened and you accept it cannot be changed.
You feel compelled to understand the lessons learned from this tragedy and dedicate your future career to those lost crewmen in order to honor their sacrifices.
You will stop trying to picture Yoewman Rand naked. Picturing Yeowman Rand naked will cause you Great Pain!
GREAT PAIN!
GREAT PAIN!!!

 

[wayoung]

So then there is the possibility those aliens may attack Yorktown with their assault fleet. Their tiny, tiny assault fleet.

Imagine all the yellow shirts that are going to get ripped in the ensuing boarding action!


And I said upthread this is a real possibility. At least, it is not without precedent:

"You feel no guilt for surviving the destruction of the Enterprise.
You understand you had no control of the circumstances of that mission.
You understand that what happened happened and you accept it cannot be changed.
You feel compelled to understand the lessons learned from this tragedy and dedicate your future career to those lost crewmen in order to honor their sacrifices.
You will stop trying to picture Yoewman Rand naked. Picturing Yeowman Rand naked will cause you Great Pain!
GREAT PAIN!
GREAT PAIN!!!

That brings new meaning to his "I have a beautiful yeoman. Have you noticed her, Mister Spock? You're allowed to notice her. The Captain's not permitted" speech.....

 

[Shark]

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but what of the others Krall marooned on Altamid, did the Enterprise go back and rescue them? Even if they were hostile, like those who confronted Scotty. That would seem the right thing to do.

 

[Timo]

With Krall and supposedly all his cohorts gone, it might become much easier for his former captives to repair a couple of the downed ships and escape in those... Or die fighting for the privilege. How many prisoners would Starfleet find alive if returning to Altamid?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Shark]

True. I think Starfleet would want to curb the potential loss of life and swing another trip through ASAP (Rather than waiting until the Enterprise was finished). Unless Kirk sugar coated another one of his Captain's logs...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The little alien made peace with the Federation, he even attended the party without his pants on. He was one happy pervert.

Kevin and his friend probably just took this opportunity to escape Teenax and ask for political asylum on the Enterprise.