No.
If by a right you mean behavior that is specifically outlawed, in addition to being un-Christian, then I guess I can see where you're coming from.
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No.
If by a right you mean behavior that is specifically outlawed, in addition to being un-Christian, then I guess I can see where you're coming from.
Besides, even if it's their right, it's the other group's right to boycott or pressure them to change. And since the other group aren't the ones expressing bigotry, they're automatically in the right.
So you'd be 100% okay, no questions asked, with a LGBT business owner denying service to someone because they were straight? Or a black business owner denying service to a white customer? How about a Muslim business owner denying a Christian?
Private business owners can fire folks when they want, too.
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Of course and I'm talking about private owned businesses. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ3AOmZ2fps
Just because somebody has the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the ethically and morally correct decision and that it doesn't cause social division and harm to an entire group of people, something that's not very Christian at all. What about segregated lunch counters, water fountains, restrooms and swimming pools during segregation?
Was it right to tell a black man he couldn't have a hamburger or a sandwich because he was black, even though he'd have been happy and willing to pay the menu price and wasn't causing any disruptions? Was it right to threaten the black customer's safety because he walked into a segregated establishment? After all, private business owner's choices = always correct, right?
Freedom has some common sense, decent limits, you know.
Was it right to tell a black man he couldn't have a hamburger or a sandwich because he was black, even though he'd have been happy and willing to pay the menu price and wasn't causing any disruptions? Was it right to threaten the black customer's safety because he walked into a segregated establishment? After all, private business owner's choices = always correct, right?
Freedom has some common sense, decent limits, you know.
I've heard those kind of arguments before, something about 'separate but equal'. Then as now, it's about shafting minorities and entrenching the powerful.
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What behavior?
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Robertson reminds me of old testament prophets. Speaking truth to “power” and standing fast on God’s word, God’s strength and God’s protection.
Sorry I had second thoughts about the post, so I deleted it.
Basically, it was the culmination of a largely terrible day, so I decided to retract that post.
I really hate Saturdays.
I don't see why, Jesus told me God wasn't real either.
Sorry I had second thoughts about the post, so I deleted it.
Basically, it was the culmination of a largely terrible day, so I decided to retract that post.
I really hate Saturdays.
I don't see why, Jesus told me God wasn't real either.
Sorry I had second thoughts about the post, so I deleted it.
Basically, it was the culmination of a largely terrible day, so I decided to retract that post.
I really hate Saturdays.
Because I prefer to couch my beliefs in the form of "I believe." I feel that it's more respectful that way - and there are those who deserve that respect.
Discrimination, of course.
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What you're describing is outlawed by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. There is no right in the US to discriminate in a place of public accommodation such as a restaurant.
Of course, it was wrong to do it even before the Act, and it's too bad that the Act was needed.
I was making fun of you and your bigoted close-minded kind.
Once again, maybe next time in Spanish. A&E has the right to fire him just as much as a retail job would if I said I didn't want to help blacks and gays.
I really hope you are old and will die soon so the planet can grow a little more.
True, there is no right to do so. Sorry if my post sounded like I mistakenly implied there was still a legally-protected right for business owners to openly discriminate and get away with it. Civil rights legislation passed in the '60s changed a whole lot of practices and behavior in this country for the better even if many people had to be dragged kicking, drooling and screaming into something approaching the Space Age. Many of them still aren't that socially conscious and developed and Lyndon Johnson signed those laws almost half a century ago.
You'd think we'd have learned from Jim Crow that denying an entire subgroup of our fellow citizens and human beings basic services like eating lunch at a counter or riding a bus is a very, very bad and backwards idea, but some people don't care and are so rooted in their prejudices that they feel they have a right and a responsibility to lash out against those they feel are too different to even order a bowl of chili without profoundly offending them.
You'd think we'd have learned from Jim Crow that denying an entire subgroup of our fellow citizens and human beings basic services like eating lunch at a counter or riding a bus is a very, very bad and backwards idea, but some people don't care and are so rooted in their prejudices that they feel they have a right and a responsibility to lash out against those they feel are too different to even order a bowl of chili without profoundly offending them.
You know, I think we *do* need something like Jim Crow laws brought back. Closed-minded bigots and people who're looking to a future should be separated. I don't want to use a water fountain after some idiot who hates an entire group of people simply because who they prefer to love.
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You bring up a good point. If I'm gay and people think the gay spreads or that I recruit straight people into my demon cock loving lifestyle then maybe the bigot spreads! I don't want to get that, I love myself and don't want to end up hating myself because of those people.
There appears to be an epidemic causing people to lose all common sense about what they want to state in public. http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/21/us/sacco-offensive-tweet/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Nobody had to 'lobby' this company to do what needed to be done to distance themselves from this employee. One wonders if the same might be said of A&E - they did what they did because they felt it was what needed to be done to prevent damage to their image/brand.
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If homosexuality is so important, why didn't Jesus find any time to talk about it?