A change bigger than the Klingons...

[Jadeb]

I have no issue with reasonable arguments either, but what about when it's the same 2 posters, point-for-pointing for 3 or 4 pages, each post getting longer and longer?

And you're right, the "nope" reply, for me, is the other extreme.

I’m not sure what thread(s) you’re referring to, so I may not be reacting to the same thing. (Which is why this sort of anonymized discussion is so unhelpful.) But, in general, I tend to have a pretty broad tolerance for discussion, whether I like the slant or not. It is, after all, a discussion forum.

From my perspective, if people are deliberately ruining theads, that’s an issue for the mods. Everyone else should just talk about Star Trek. Adding tons of sniping and jabs about what the “other side” thinks only worsens the user experience.

 

[Mudd]

To be fair, everything has a much smaller audience now. Which is why something like Discovery is seen as a success. In all honesty, it likely has less viewers than Enterprise did at the end. The Orville, also seen as a success has less viewers than Enterprise did at the end.

Exactly. STD is more secure and will almost certainly go on longer than The Orville, because the latter show is dependent upon the archaic economics of the network broadcast model. But neither has the reach or influence of even mid-level tv successes of fifteen years ago. Star Trek Enterprise struggled with ratings higher than a lot of current hits.

Trek is as fully niche programming as anything floating out there on the CW.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I’m not sure what thread(s) you’re referring to, so I may not be reacting to the same thing. (Which is why this sort of anonymized discussion is so unhelpful.) But, in general, I tend to have a pretty broad tolerance for discussion, whether I like the slant or not. It is, after all, a discussion forum.

From my perspective, if people are deliberately ruining threads, that’s an issue for the mods. Everyone else should just talk about Star Trek. Adding tons of sniping and jabs about what the “other side” thinks only worsens the user experience.

I wanna say most of the earlier, longer threads in this sub-forum contain examples of what I'm talking about. I mean, if you've been in most of the DSC threads, you've seen it, you may just not choose to remember it

As far as "who?", that's something I'm not getting into, but there does tend to be sniping after a few go-rounds.