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I just stuck with the Journey to Babel plans since they are pretty much the final floor plan of stage 9. Just keeping it simple. I did shorten the back of the transporter room so it would not have to wild flowing into the turbo lift area of the corridor.

Warning if you plan on doing season 1 plans as well be prepared to draft out entirely different engineering consoles. The season 1 consoles wound up being used in the Auxillary Control Room in season 2 / 3.
 
Just A Bill,
Concerning you question of the footer gap not being seen from your photo there are 2 reasons.

1. At the end of a wall they would put a small blind to hide the exposed end of a wall panel to prevent revealing the footer on an end wall panel. Similar to when they wilded the console section next to Spock’s on the bridge they made a black cutout to hide the bare wood on the side of the console.

2. At the intersection in front of engineering or the transporter room they used large tubes ( 9 inches if my memory is correct ) to conceal the ends of the wall panels so they would not be seen by the camera.
Thanks, Robert. It's not really a concern, just an observation. The floor gap often does not exist inside rooms, so when an all-the-way-to-the-floor wall inside a room joins up with a gap-from-the-floor wall out in the corridor, there is naturally a step-up/step-down transition, most noticeable to me where doors slip into their pockets.

I first started paying more attention to it when I was scrutinizing a screencap of the sickbay doors leading into the exam room. The difference stood out to me more there because the walls are thicker on the inboard side of the main corridor, to accommodate the doors needing more room to slide behind inward-curving walls. (This can be seen on the set plans too.) I've misplaced that screencap, but here's a view in my rough 3D study model, laying on the floor in the main corridor and looking into the exam room in the general direction of where the surgical bed would be.

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Anyway, I only mentioned it in the context of speculating about the height of the floor gap, which is a detail I must resolve for my scale model. Based on my plywood options, it makes sense for me to choose between 3mm and 5mm, which correspond roughly to 1" and 1.5" on the real set. Your reported gap measurement of 1.5" seems to agree with the DS9 crew's choices for T&T, since they show wall heights of both 10'0" and 10'1.5".

The obvious inference would be that the footer is a 2x4 lying on its side. I suspect this was the case for Desilu as well. The surviving 1960s elevation plan lists the walls at 10'0", and I believe those markings are all for interior room walls. So it's hard to know whether the exterior (corridor) walls were that same height or were 1.5" taller. I suspect the latter, since they wouldn't have had a strong reason to go to the trouble of sawing an inch and half off of every corridor panel just to account for the footer gap, especially when the camera should never see the very top anyway. But of course this is speculation.
 
Warning if you plan on doing season 1 plans as well be prepared to draft out entirely different engineering consoles. The season 1 consoles wound up being used in the Auxillary Control Room in season 2 / 3.

Very well aware of it. The Season 1 Engineering is completely different. Even the ceiling arches are mounted on a different height. The Manifold has a different number of horizontal pipes, the height of the manifold in regard to the floor also changes throughout the Season.

But I love the look of the early Season 1 sets and how they were lit. Almost like a Film Noir with technicolor. Stark contrasts, accent lighting, deep shadows… to me that is still unique to this very day. I also love some oddities like the the double panel of red hexagon mesh on the sickbay side of the corridor. Sometimes there are pipes behind it, sometimes a console… I can‘t explain it. It’s like loving and appreciating every little mole and wrinkle of a woman, or lady in this case. 😅

Anyway, I‘ll continue drawing on January first. A good way to start the new year. 🙂
 
I forgot to mention The Roman 89,
When you build your ruler for Stage 9 using the Balance of Terror sheet use the spot in front of the turbo lift near sickbay. That would give you a square face to begin the 8 ft mark. Then subdivide it down with a calculator like you’ve seen on my previous posts. Build your ruler from that. It will match the Journey to Babel plans since they were all drawn to be the exact same size.
 
I also love some oddities like the the double panel of red hexagon mesh on the sickbay side of the corridor. Sometimes there are pipes behind it, sometimes a console… I can‘t explain it.
My favorite easy explanation for the myriad corridor changes across the episodes is that it's not only different decks but sometimes even just a different section of the same deck. The Stage 9 corridor complex could very nearly fit three times around the center point of the ship, so that's three times the number of significant decks in the saucer. Then, for the thickest decks (5, 6, 7ish), add additional, larger concentric corridors and this one stage could easily represent 10 or 20 distinct sections of the ship, just within the saucer. (I'm confident the production intended the corridor curve to be generic enough to represent further-outboard locations, as evidenced by early depictions of Kirk's and McCoy's quarters implying windows through the outer hull.)

So I assume the same general corridor design was repeated throughout the Enterprise, but with many minor variations — kind of like a modern housing development where it's the same three or four home floor plans over and over,
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but multiplied by four different choices of front porch, three different styles of decorative column, six different front doors... This makes it easy for me to accept that two corridors look almost identical except one has an intercom next to the second yellow door and another doesn't. Or the situation where Bele and Lokai run down the same corridor we've seen a hundred times but all of a sudden there's a weird angled panel at the clockwise end.

Oh, and just as they mirror entire floor plans in a housing development, some sections of corridor would also be mirror images of the one we're used to. The show actually did this sometimes. More than once, I believe, it was during a captain's log or a ship-wide intercom call asking if anyone's there, using a montage of vacant corridors to show us the uninhabited emptiness of a ship like the Constellation, Exeter, or Defiant (can't remember which ones exactly) or the Gideon duplicate (below left). Another time was when tracking the hate-entity in Day of the Dove (below right).

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Some progress today:
Now I completed redrawing a little more than 7 of 12 pages of Transporter Room drawings by Robert. I also began to make layouts, but I have to make a US paper format and scale version (1:12 scale in inches and US Paper formats) and a EU one (1:20 scale in cm and on DIN A3 paper) and some of them necessary for my miniature plans in 1:18. Oh well…

The „trim“ was particularly challenging. There‘s a lot more geometry in this piece than one would expect. I‘ll have to add measurements to the drawing though.

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Also began on the floorplan and wall elevations always going back and forth between stage plans, screen captures and already scaled elements by Robert.
Here‘s a little preview without measurements but to scale and shaded.
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I also began the same process for the Season 1 corridor based on the „Balance of Terror“ stage plan.
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Once I determined the length of the wall segments, I folded them back on the floor so to speak. Then I alinged them all into an „unwinded“ elevation and began adding notes, as in what door type and where it leads. Wall plant-ons, intercoms etc will follow.

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I hope to soon be finished with the Transporter Room and then probably continue with the Briefing Room. Elements like the Rec Room Redress Panel with the food dispensers are also necessary to document the variations of the back wall of the Transporter Room that was continuously changed throughout the series.

It will probably take me a year or more documenting all the Interior sets in such detail.

Anyway, happy new year to everyone reading this!
 
Just thought I'd throw in my own two cents (or currency of your choice), especially regarding those silver strips/gaps on the corridor panels. I've spent way too many hours staring at them!

We don't get many examples of viewing the gaps head on, but Charlie X and LTBYLB both have a nice view down the straight corridor outside the Transporter Room, showing the gaps on the inner corridor wall.
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Charlie X also gives us a rare straight on(ish) look at the silver strips on the outer wall - if there is any difference in width between the inner and outer strips, it is tiny.
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And here's that silver material looking rather dented in ATCSL!
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Using the adjacent wall panels as a guide, it is clear that the silver strips are 1½" wide - although this might initially seem a curious figure, I think it was used because it is a whole fraction of 1 foot and feet is what the sets were measured out in. So a grouping of two 2-foot panels, two 3-foot panels and a 4-foot panel (plus 4 silver strips) would equal exactly 14'6"
It just makes for much easier maths when deciding which panels to allocate to the circumference of a circle!
I drew all Season One and Season Two corridor configurations a couple of years ago in Inkscape (because it is vector based) and the 1½" system works extremely well, because at no point do you end up with odd distances like 7'4" or 14'5", it's always nice fractions of feet. ;)

I started using 1" (scaled of course) in my model, but have come to question it. I think Robert has a diagram somewhere that says 1.5"? Anyway, one thing to keep in mind is that for the curved corridor, you will likely end up with different widths on the inboard vs. outboard walls because one is convex while the other is concave. I think Desilu made some compromises because of this, and I've noticed that we don't clearly see the joints on the inboard side as much as we do those on the outboard side.

I don't have the answer, but the more I work on the physical model, the more I find myself thinking in terms of the materials that would have been available to Desilu. I suspect this gap is based on the width of a 2x4, which would be 1.5". The question is, would they have shaved one side on an angle, as the T&T plans suggest, or would they have just abutted the two adjoining panels right up against the 2x4 and rotated them a few degrees to get the needed angle? (An angle which I have measured on the Babel plan to generally vary from about 2 to 7 degrees in the curved corridor, since the panel widths vary a lot.)

If it was the latter, then the gaps will be narrower than 1.5" on the outboard side and wider than 1.5" on the inboard side. I'm guessing they used standard 2" foil tape along the 2x4's edge and just folded it around the corners, so this could have worked out all right in either method.
The width difference of the gaps between the inner and outer position on the corridor panels is not as great as you might expect, thanks in part to the generous 51' radius of the outer wall (later Trek series sets had much tighter radii).
When you're dealing with width differences of between one-twelfth and one-tenth of an inch, that's quite a bit of wiggle room!
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On the above example I have assumed that the wall panels are 1½" deep, since that's how far the silver strips seems to be set back. Everything else is still speculation!

Clues to the construction of the gaps can be gleaned from this pic of the "Environmental Engineering" alcove partially dismantled. It appears that each wall panel had a small jam sticking out of the side, which would probably butt up against the adjacent wall panel, before a silver strip was applied to cover the join.
No doubt braces were added behind the wall panels to hold them firmly together.
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Looks good. Thank you for weighing in Mytran. I was wondering where you were.

I’ll have to wait till Saturday to do the helm. I took off work yesterday and went to an emergency clinic. Needed antibiotics for bronchitis. But doctor wanted to check me into a hospital for high blood pressure. He released me after I promised to go to my doctor as soon as possible to schedule with my heart doctor. Despite New Year’s Day he told me to spend it resting. That should give the antibiotics time to clear up the chest infection.

The Roman89 looks good. I’ll dig through my pile of stuff and see if I can find the transporter trim and rescan it with measurements.
 
The Roman89,
Post #320 is the final version of the updated view screen. I’ll have to check with a friend for the one I did with color matchreference.
 
Thanks for those corridor shots! I will find them quite helpful, especially the BTS picture.

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On the above example I have assumed that the wall panels are 1½" deep, since that's how far the silver strips seems to be set back. Everything else is still speculation!
We are agreed on the 1.5" offset (I've been in the process of updating my model for a few days now), but it looks like we have different ideas about where the points of rotation are. Your diagram places the rotation points at the visible surfaces of the walls, where your straight purple lines are, but structurally I don't think Desilu would have had, and I do not have, a good way of enforcing the 1.5" gap at that location, because it's the location of nothing; a gap. There's nothing at that face for the two walls to push against.

Of course this generally will be dependent upon the specific method chosen to enforce the gap size, but I've tended to accept what the T&T plan shows, and this seems consistent with your BTS photograph. If we assume something roughly equivalent to a vertical 2x4, 1.5" in width, pushed back 1.5" from the front surface of the corridor-side walls, then the rotation points (if the walls are indeed 1.5" deep) end up being at the ends of your green lines, making your green lines exactly 1.5" in length. In that case, your inboard walls will have visual gaps bigger than 1.5" and your outboard walls will have visual gaps smaller than 1.5".

Unless I'm reading or calculating something backwards, which I have been known to do from time to time.
 
Looks good. Thank you for weighing in Mytran. I was wondering where you were.
Lots of lurking these days! But this is a subject near and dear to me so I couldn't help but comment, even if by the time I did so my info may have been moot! :guffaw:
We are agreed on the 1.5" offset (I've been in the process of updating my model for a few days now), but it looks like we have different ideas about where the points of rotation are. Your diagram places the rotation points at the visible surfaces of the walls, where your straight purple lines are, but structurally I don't think Desilu would have had, and I do not have, a good way of enforcing the 1.5" gap at that location, because it's the location of nothing; a gap. There's nothing at that face for the two walls to push against.

Of course this generally will be dependent upon the specific method chosen to enforce the gap size, but I've tended to accept what the T&T plan shows, and this seems consistent with your BTS photograph. If we assume something roughly equivalent to a vertical 2x4, 1.5" in width, pushed back 1.5" from the front surface of the corridor-side walls, then the rotation points (if the walls are indeed 1.5" deep) end up being at the ends of your green lines, making your green lines exactly 1.5" in length. In that case, your inboard walls will have visual gaps bigger than 1.5" and your outboard walls will have visual gaps smaller than 1.5".

Unless I'm reading or calculating something backwards, which I have been known to do from time to time.
You are correct, I assumed that the 1.5" gaps were on the visible side of each wall. I now concede that while this might have been the solution in an ideal world, it would perhaps be less so in a practical sense!

If the 1.5" gap were in fact in the inset position as you suggest, then the inboard walls will have visual gaps of 1.632" and the outboard walls will have visual gaps of 1.41".
These differences amount to about 1" on the outboard wall and maybe 2" on the inboard walls. I think my drawings can accommodate this with a bit of wall panel shuffling but we will have to see! ;)

I think by looking back at the 2nd pilot episode we have a good indication that the standard external wall panels were indeed 1½" thick. Here's one end on, at a corner junction:
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It's almost a dead match for how the EEP alcove appears in that pic from my earlier post (BTW, the scan came from the book "Inside Star Trek"). The external panels would of course be attached to a support structure (again seen in the EEP pic) but it's still good supporting evidence for the metallic strips being set back 1.5" from the surface.

As how the wall panels were joined to each other, the T&T method strikes me as rather complex when hinges would have sufficed, due to the variable angles required when connecting 24", 36", 48", 60" or even 96" wide wall panels to each other! This is not to mention the ease at which they could have been removed and reattached as required by simply removing the hinge pin! The metallic strip was a simple yet effective way to conceal the joint, although I can't say whether it was foil tape or an actual strip of aluminium fixed in place. My earlier screencap from ATCSL does show it worse for wear, in any case! Prior to that, in WNMHGB the strip was of a less reflective material - perhaps just regular gaffer's tape?
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Clues to the construction of the gaps can be gleaned from this pic of the "Environmental Engineering" alcove partially dismantled. It appears that each wall panel had a small jam sticking out of the side, which would probably butt up against the adjacent wall panel, before a silver strip was applied to cover the join.
No doubt braces were added behind the wall panels to hold them firmly together.
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Is that photo from the final set build at Desilu/Paramount, or from the version they built in Culver City for WNMHGB?
 
Found the view screen color reference page on my old computer but it won’t let me sign on to my email or Imgur to transfer and upload the image. I’ll have to work on this so I can post any images here. It was removed from my Apple ID when I got the new computer. 😡
 
Problem. Found the color reference page for the main viewer and my initial notes and trace on the helm. Fired up old computer but when I tried to bring up Imgur I got a grayed screen that was blank. Tried to sign in on my new computer after porting the images and Imgur would not let me log in unless I gave them my credit card number. No way that’s happening. So I’m stuck. Mytran message me and I’ll give you my email and I’ll send them to you and you can post them. I really wish we still had the old upload attachments here to sidestep this.
 
Problem. Found the color reference page for the main viewer and my initial notes and trace on the helm. Fired up old computer but when I tried to bring up Imgur I got a grayed screen that was blank. Tried to sign in on my new computer after porting the images and Imgur would not let me log in unless I gave them my credit card number. No way that’s happening. So I’m stuck. Mytran message me and I’ll give you my email and I’ll send them to you and you can post them. I really wish we still had the old upload attachments here to sidestep this.
I've messaged you as requested
 
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