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8x09 Flatline (Discussion/Grading) SPOILERS!

What do you think about the episode?


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The current Tardis shell just looks to new and polished to match up with a 2000 year old Timelord. The small version in this episode even more so. I am more of a fan of 9/10's Tardis exterior with is more used look.
 
The current Tardis shell just looks to new and polished to match up with a 2000 year old Timelord. The small version in this episode even more so. I am more of a fan of 9/10's Tardis exterior with is more used look.

Well, she's getting on in millennia too. Of course she's going to put on more makeup!
 
The current Tardis shell just looks to new and polished to match up with a 2000 year old Timelord. The small version in this episode even more so. I am more of a fan of 9/10's Tardis exterior with is more used look.

Well, she's getting on in millennia too. Of course she's going to put on more makeup!

It gives credence to the theory the Chameleon Circuit works fine, but the TARDIS chooses to look like a police box.

Now, she just looks like a cleaner, newer police box. So Logopolis was a complete waste of time for the Doctor.
 
I don't think in Logopolis he was trying to make the police box look newer, really. He wanted it to change after he saw how the Master used it effectively in Keeper Of Traken (As the Melkur). He tries to input it to turn into a large pyramid but the program just makes it into a police box again (a graphic later reused in Earthshock). Not sure why he wanted to measure the 'real' box (Which turned out I think to be the Master's other TARDIS and caused some dimensional mix ups ala The Time Monster).


BTW this isn't the first time we've seen the TARDIS in another mode in the new series. There's the invisibility cloak used in Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon.
 
I don't think in Logopolis he was trying to make the police box look newer, really. He wanted it to change after he saw how the Master used it effectively in Keeper Of Traken (As the Melkur). He tries to input it to turn into a large pyramid but the program just makes it into a police box again (a graphic later reused in Earthshock). Not sure why he wanted to measure the 'real' box (Which turned out I think to be the Master's other TARDIS and caused some dimensional mix ups ala The Time Monster).


BTW this isn't the first time we've seen the TARDIS in another mode in the new series. There's the invisibility cloak used in Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon.

Measuring the police box would've allowed the Logopolians to fix the chamelion device via block transfer computation. But the Master killed a Logopolians messing up the calculation and thusly shrinking the TARDIS.
 
If we're getting into the detail of Logopolis, the Doctor says they have to measure the real police box (for comparison with the TARDIS) in all 30-plus dimensions, implying that a real-world object does have the full multi-dimensional set (the implication is that the TARDIS can't change because of a mismatch between the form she's aiming for, and the reality she's achieved, that needs to be added into the BTC calculations to resolve the mismatch. This doesn't really make sense, unless the TARDIS had always patterned herself on that obsolete 1981 police box on the Barnet bypass, not one in 1963 east London around the time of An Unearthly Child).

Of course, we now know that it's just that she likes looking like a police box. The Doctor didn't know her as well back then so he was trying to solve the Chameleon Circuit fault through brute force mathematics, rather than just talking to her...
 
I don't think in Logopolis he was trying to make the police box look newer, really. He wanted it to change after he saw how the Master used it effectively in Keeper Of Traken (As the Melkur). He tries to input it to turn into a large pyramid but the program just makes it into a police box again (a graphic later reused in Earthshock). Not sure why he wanted to measure the 'real' box (Which turned out I think to be the Master's other TARDIS and caused some dimensional mix ups ala The Time Monster).


BTW this isn't the first time we've seen the TARDIS in another mode in the new series. There's the invisibility cloak used in Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon.

Measuring the police box would've allowed the Logopolians to fix the chamelion device via block transfer computation. But the Master killed a Logopolians messing up the calculation and thusly shrinking the TARDIS.

My point was, the chameleon circuit may have always worked, the TARDIS is just stubborn and prefers being a police box :guffaw:

And an interesting parallel, shrinking TARDIS, from both these episodes.
 
Now I'm wondering what it might actually be like to encounter a 2d species. Surely this has been covered in sci-fi before?

Of the top of my head... TNG - The Loss

Madeline L'Engle's a Wrinkle in Time comes to mind, although I guess that's the opposite.

Good episode. Brought down a touch by the 3D monster chase, but boosted by the clever resolution with the drawing. Liked it quite a bit.
 
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