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8X01 "Deep Breath" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

Grade "Deep Breath"

  • Scottish!

    Votes: 52 33.3%
  • Good

    Votes: 74 47.4%
  • Average

    Votes: 17 10.9%
  • Bad

    Votes: 8 5.1%
  • I miss Matt Smith

    Votes: 5 3.2%

  • Total voters
    156
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The headmaster who enrolled Susan in 1963 was eventually working for the Daleks in remembrance of the Daleks a few months later... And stewardship would have changed hands again a couple times in the succeeding 50 years.

The Doctor would have faked her permanent record to reflect her "acquired" computer skills from the great intelligence fiddling with her mind, just like how he got Rory and Amy a house and a modelling contract.
 
Here's something of an issue I picked up on in the episode. When Strax is performing a medical scan on Clara, his device indicates her age is 27. Which means she's aged since The Bells of St John. So far this is actually surprisingly consistent, since The Bells of St John does take place in 2013, this would mean she's now from 2016, which does place Day of the Doctor after The Power of Three thereby explaining how the Doctor and Kate Stewart know each other. How ever, the issue I'm having is that this means Clara somehow got an education degree and steady teaching job in three years, which seems a ridiculously short time. Thoughts?

Assuming Clara had already been to university and already had a degree (and I don't recall anything to suggest she didn't) then she would need to undertake a PGCE, which is a one year Masters course for graduates. At the end of that year she could get a job as a teacher so it's perfectly reasonable to assume that in the space of three years she's become a teacher, so long as she'd already been to University of course.

Exactly. It all hinges on her going to uni first, which is possible, so, yes, one could easily do what she did.
 
Or the school is an academy or free school who can employ who they like with whatever qualifications they like.

PGCE, which is a one year Masters course for graduates

It's not M-level - it's a Post-graduate Certificate as the name suggests, off the top of my head it carries about half the credits you need for a Master's.
 
The Doctor couldn't use his transcript from the Academy on Gallifrey to get his teaching position in Season 2's School Reunion since he failed his exams the first time around.

DOCTOR: Yes, I suppose it must be for someone as young and inexperienced as you are.
ROMANA: I may be inexperienced, but I did graduate from the Academy with a triple first.
DOCTOR: I suppose you think we should be impressed by that, too?
ROMANA: Well, it's better than scraping through with fifty one percent at the second attempt.
 
Speaking of Academies...Moffatt won an Emmy last night for writing.

So, there's that.
 
The headmaster who enrolled Susan in 1963 was eventually working for the Daleks in remembrance of the Daleks a few months later... And stewardship would have changed hands again a couple times in the succeeding 50 years.

The Doctor would have faked her permanent record to reflect her "acquired" computer skills from the great intelligence fiddling with her mind, just like how he got Rory and Amy a house and a modelling contract.

I believe the reference was to the fact that Ian is now Headmaster... Apologies if that's not where this was all going.. Only on my first cuppa...
 
Here's something of an issue I picked up on in the episode. When Strax is performing a medical scan on Clara, his device indicates her age is 27. Which means she's aged since The Bells of St John. So far this is actually surprisingly consistent, since The Bells of St John does take place in 2013, this would mean she's now from 2016, which does place Day of the Doctor after The Power of Three thereby explaining how the Doctor and Kate Stewart know each other. How ever, the issue I'm having is that this means Clara somehow got an education degree and steady teaching job in three years, which seems a ridiculously short time. Thoughts?
I knew someone who was determined to cram a 4-year Bachelor of Education degree into 3 years. I don't know if she managed to do it - 7 courses per semester plus practicum, but she was smart enough to have a good chance of it. And if she were to get a job offer based on her practicum performance, that's one way a person could manage the course and get a job in 3 years.

The headmaster who enrolled Susan in 1963 was eventually working for the Daleks in remembrance of the Daleks a few months later... And stewardship would have changed hands again a couple times in the succeeding 50 years.

The Doctor would have faked her permanent record to reflect her "acquired" computer skills from the great intelligence fiddling with her mind, just like how he got Rory and Amy a house and a modelling contract.
I believe the reference was to the fact that Ian is now Headmaster... Apologies if that's not where this was all going.. Only on my first cuppa...
Ian couldn't be in charge of the school until after 1966(?), since that's the in-universe year when he and Barbara turned up in the Dalek ship when they left the Doctor.
 
Speaking of Academies...Moffatt won an Emmy last night for writing.

So, there's that.

And Doctor Who even got a shout out from the announcer as well, which is kind of cool on a broadcast that has the kind of massive audience the Emmy's has.
 
Wasn't thrilled at first; I guess we expect "doctor acts disoriented and erratic" scenes after a regeneration but it felt like a burden on the plot. Worth it in the end though; Clara had a couple of great scenes standing up to Vastra and Head Robot Guy. I like her a lot more these days. Then there was the doctor talking (maybe!) the Robot Guy into giving up.

And, just to reiterate what others have said, Clara's difficulty with the doctor's new face made plenty of sense to me. Knowing he's had different incarnations in the past is quite different to losing her own version of him.

Interesting that Jenny is still the tea lady behind closed doors.
 
Bin listening to the episodes soundtrack, and, wow, is that dark. Didn't really notice it that much during the episode.

There are some lighter tones but overall pretty moody.

There is an urgent theme near the end which could very well be the new Doctor theme.
if true it will be less iconic than "I am the Doctor". guess with upcoming episodes we will see if it repeats with different variations.
 
What a drawn-out mess.

I've tried to watch this episode three times now. Once, in pre-release and twice again this past weekend. It certainly didn't have the story to carry through the extended runtime and Capaldi's performance was an off-putting mix of callous and poorly-timed comedic one-liners. Ecclestone was dismissive and rude but still managed to make us believe that someone would want to follow him, that there was a hidden life behind the manic eyes.

Capaldi just doesn't pull it off. He's rude and boring.

I want it to be better. I want to enjoy this show again for the eighth season. It just isn't there. The Doctor has died and another lesser man has gone swanning off with his name and his memories. Maybe he (or she) will be back again.

But not today.
 
I agree Capaldi came off a little too strange and off-putting at the start, but once we do see him finally settle down in that final scene with the cyborg, and become the much more calm and serious Doctor he will be, I thought he was absolutely fantastic. And riveting as hell to watch.

I'm not even familiar with the actor in anything but the old Pompeii episode, but I immediately recognized why this guy is so admired and respected as an actor. And I'm now looking forward more than ever to what he does in future episodes.

It is a very different style and tone of Doctor than we've seen in a while though, so I can definitely understand why he may not appeal to everyone.
 
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