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7X02 Dinosaurs On A Spaceship (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

Grade "Dinosaurs On A Spaceship"

  • Geronimo!

    Votes: 54 38.0%
  • Good

    Votes: 56 39.4%
  • Average

    Votes: 21 14.8%
  • Bad

    Votes: 6 4.2%
  • Dinosaurs couldn't even save this episode

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • Total voters
    142
We don't have basements in Australia.

Therin will now pop in and inform me that yes, some people do have basements.

I have never seen one. We rarely have useable attics either. It must be something about the vast emptiness of the continent that makes us feel we do not have a pressing need for storage space.
 
As for episodes on the same par as 'Blink' or 'TGITF' during Moffat's show running tenure?

'The Eleventh Hour', 'Amy's Choice', 'Vincent and the Doctor', 'The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang', 'A Good Man Goes To War', 'The Girl Who Waited', 'The God Complex'. Only a fool would not say those are quality episodes
 
This is on BBC America again, I actually agree with a lot of the flaws but this episode does a pretty good job of running fast enough to get away with it. By the time your thinking they really should do more with it being Nefertiti the Doctor is already confounding Brian or being teleported or whatever.
 
'Vincent and the Doctor',

This one made me cry!

Seen it several times and it still makes me cry.

That moment ... when Vincent overhears the curator talk about the significance of van Gogh's work ... after we've seen his contemporaries reject him and the demons of self-doubt that crippled him and drove him to alcoholic relief. My God, the mere memory of that scene can move me to tears! And then the revelation that even that wasn't enough to alter the artist's fate. There's an Internet meme out there about the loyal pooch from an episode of Futurama as a symbol of tear-jerking TV shows, but that's got nothing on "Vincent and the Doctor".
 
[...] What I don’t understand is how you can miss the similarly deeper meaning behind something like Big Bang, in fact the entire of the 5th series?

From the 11th Hour onwards the entire series is about a whole host of things. It’s about the loss of childhood innocence, it’s about running away from your responsibilities, about being afraid of growing up and clinging to your childhood to forestall that process of growing up, and it all comes together in the Big Bang where Amy understands that she can grow up, can marry Rory, and yet still hold onto her childhood. A great message for a show aimed at people of all ages, a show that once had a Doctor proclaim that there was no point growing up if you couldn’t be childish some of the time. And as beautiful as the moment between Sally and the old version of the copper is, the Doctor’s fond farewell to Amy before he goes off into oblivion tugs my heartstrings just as much.

And it’s about love, and about loving someone even if you can’t be together (Rory guards the Pandorica for 2000 years) about loving someone even if you don’t remember them (Amy’s tears for Rory in Vincent and the Doctor). You claim Moffat Who isn’t about anything, when it’s about the girl who waited, the girl who’s still waiting, and oh, look, this deeper meaning is yet again evident in Dinos in space! It’s clear that Amy is still torn. Part of her wants to snip the ties that bind her to the Doctor, whilst part of her doesn’t. She wants to have her cake and eat it, that’s what she’s wanted all along, but it’s becoming clear that she can’t have both lives. Hence the fact that at the start they complain it’d been a while since the Doctor dropped round, yet at the end they want to go home.
A pretty decent summation of some of the reasons I'm enjoying the hell out of Moffat Who. Thanks for saving me the thinking and typing. :D

I haven't been quite able to articulate it but Steven Moffets Doctor Who is far less silly than RTD's. It's also less earth centric which makes it different than that RTD era.
One of the things I...dislike (not quite the word I'm looking for, but anyway) about RTD Who is the fact it pretty much ignored the premise. The Doctor is a character who can go literally anywhere in time and space...yet the majority of RTD-era episodes were set on Earth (worse, contemporary Earth) and featured enemies we'd seen a zillion times before in classic Who. Moffat's the one who introduced some new aliens (and some creeptacular ones at that) but more importantly (at least in the view of a fan who grew up watching classic Who) he's restored the anywhere-in-time-and-space aspect. He's brought back the show's premise, the thing that always set Who apart from every other SF series out there. I prefer his Who on that basis alone. I readily admit that's my bias and I'm well aware it's not a viewpoint that's universally shared. But no matter. To each their own. :bolian:
 
One of the things I...dislike (not quite the word I'm looking for, but anyway) about RTD Who is the fact it pretty much ignored the premise. The Doctor is a character who can go literally anywhere in time and space...yet the majority of RTD-era episodes were set on Earth (worse, contemporary Earth) and featured enemies we'd seen a zillion times before in classic Who.
True, but "horror lurks in everyday life" is also part of the Doctor Who premise, and for it to work, you need contemporary Earth.
 
One of the things I...dislike (not quite the word I'm looking for, but anyway) about RTD Who is the fact it pretty much ignored the premise. The Doctor is a character who can go literally anywhere in time and space...yet the majority of RTD-era episodes were set on Earth (worse, contemporary Earth) and featured enemies we'd seen a zillion times before in classic Who.
True, but "horror lurks in everyday life" is also part of the Doctor Who premise, and for it to work, you need contemporary Earth.
They should do one about the terror lurking in the basement.
 
One of the things I...dislike (not quite the word I'm looking for, but anyway) about RTD Who is the fact it pretty much ignored the premise. The Doctor is a character who can go literally anywhere in time and space...yet the majority of RTD-era episodes were set on Earth (worse, contemporary Earth) and featured enemies we'd seen a zillion times before in classic Who.
True, but "horror lurks in everyday life" is also part of the Doctor Who premise, and for it to work, you need contemporary Earth.
They should do one about the terror lurking in the basement.

Shut the flock up! I have enough trouble convincing my seven year old to fetch something from the basement without your notions making their way back to the BBC!
 
I live in Arizona and no one here has a basement. I guess it's assumed that, in the event of a nuclear attack, there's no way it could possibly get any hotter than it already is.

As for episodes on the same par as 'Blink' or 'TGITF' during Moffat's show running tenure?

'The Eleventh Hour', 'Amy's Choice', 'Vincent and the Doctor', 'The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang', 'A Good Man Goes To War', 'The Girl Who Waited', 'The God Complex'. Only a fool would not say those are quality episodes

I agree with all of those episodes except for "A Good Man Goes to War." While I love the Moffat era, I thought that episode had very little to recommend it. And the Amy's baby arc just didn't work for me at all. On the other hand, "Let's Kill Hitler" was comedy gold!
 
True, but "horror lurks in everyday life" is also part of the Doctor Who premise, and for it to work, you need contemporary Earth.
They should do one about the terror lurking in the basement.

Shut the flock up! I have enough trouble convincing my seven year old to fetch something from the basement without your notions making their way back to the BBC!
Be honest now, it's not your seven year old you're worried about being too scared to go in the basement.
 
They should do one about the terror lurking in the basement.

Shut the flock up! I have enough trouble convincing my seven year old to fetch something from the basement without your notions making their way back to the BBC!
Be honest now, it's not your seven year old you're worried about being too scared to go in the basement.

What can I say? That place is full of creepy noises and holes that could go anywhere.
 
Shut the flock up! I have enough trouble convincing my seven year old to fetch something from the basement without your notions making their way back to the BBC!
Be honest now, it's not your seven year old you're worried about being too scared to go in the basement.

What can I say? That place is full of creepy noises and holes that could go anywhere.

Not to mention the flippin' Vashta Nerada lurking in the shadows. :eek:
 
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