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6x04 The Doctor's Wife(Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

Grade "The Doctor's Wife"

  • Geronimo!

    Votes: 169 84.5%
  • Above Average

    Votes: 22 11.0%
  • Good

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • Not Good

    Votes: 3 1.5%

  • Total voters
    200
  • Poll closed .
'The pretty one' great line after all the Doctor's nose comments about Rory.

I wonder if the Tardis gets jealous. She did leave out the metal dog, and Ian, and Jamie when showing past companions.
 
But Rose just gobbled the Time Vortex (not that that means anything at all whatsoever), not the Tardis itself.

That's a matter of interpretation - we've always chosen to view it as being the TARDIS who calls him "My Doctor" - Rose hasn't known any of the others, or known him for long enough...

I don't think Rose called Nine "my Doctor" in "The Parting of the Ways" because she had any notion that he can change his face. She called him "my Doctor" as a sign of devotion and love -- akin to if someone were to say "my Kayla" or "my Alaina." The sense I got was that Rose, while holding the energy of the Time Vortex, had entered an altered state of consciousness in which she did not feel the need to hide her deeper motivations from herself or from others as she normally did (as we all normally do).

And, yeah, I think that by the end of Series One, both the Doctor and Rose had some very serious feelings for one-another, even if they weren't ready to openly admit it yet.
 
Personally, i think that this was the best episode of the season so far. And of course it confirmed what had been speculation re: the TARDIS for quite a while, why it almost never goes where the Doctor wants it to go.
 
Christ on a cross, is this what passes for Doctor Who now? Some fanwank, some nonsense...completely unengaging. At least I could be bothered to hate the RTD stuff. The Tardis becoming a woman is the kind of idea a 14 year old would write in their fanfic read by about 3 people. I thought Gaiman was an author, or something.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI



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What's dickish about that? I didn't attack anyone here personally.
 
Classic. A paean to the TARDIS and to the show itself. Amongst other things it addressed some things that really hadn't been addressed before (eg sex change regenerations; the question of the TARDIS's steering - it lands where it wants to and that ain't a figure of speech; the Doctor's room (the first time in the show's history that the question of him having a room has been raised?); the TARDIS's seeming omnipotence and non-sequential awareness of its and the Doctor's timelines; the length of time for which the Doctor's been using the TARDIS and his implied age when he "borrowed" it; the fate of old console rooms other than the wood-panelled one from the Seventies; intra-TARDIS teleportation; the ease of undeleting rooms; whether the crew was actually in danger from Castrovalva's jettisonning move).

This episode was delightful, exciting and funny, with several lovely laugh-oud-loud moments and a suitably arch and kooky turn from Suranne Jones.
Downsides? I can overlook the cobbling together of the makeshift TARDIS, so none really other than that weird expression on Idris's face as she receives the TARDIS's persona.
Things that I would have liked to see: Was kind of thinking that at some point the Doctor would ask her why she had such an affinity for the police box form. Also, it would have been neat if the TARDIS had reverted to its default exterior after its consciousness was removed. A reference to the ship's alleged ability to prevent onboard violence would have been nice, too.

(Edit: Special mention for Matt Smith, fantastic and utterly credible here.)
 
Huh, only 4 options? And why's the poll not public? I'd like to see which posters vote for what.
Anyway, I voted "Good" because it was well made and I liked some elements of it - especially the interaction between the Doctor and the TARDIS on the planet and the part with Amy and Rory in the corridor - but it ultimately left me somewhat cold. Maybe I should wait for the next Doctor?


Haven't seen the episode yet, is the snake tattoo a nod of sorts to Pertwee (Whose army tattoo is visible in some of his earlier stories)?

It was a Navy tattoo. ;) I saw it more as a way for the Doctor to identify the Corsair's arm later on but now that you mention it, it might have been a nod, though it doesn't look like Pertwee's tat (which was also a snake).
There was a nod to the Pertwee era when the Doctor said he had rebuilt the console before. I chuckled because that was a mess he needed the Master's help to fix.
 
Christ on a cross, is this what passes for Doctor Who now? Some fanwank, some nonsense...completely unengaging. At least I could be bothered to hate the RTD stuff. The Tardis becoming a woman is the kind of idea a 14 year old would write in their fanfic read by about 3 people. I thought Gaiman was an author, or something.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI



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Infraction for flaming. COmments to PM
what is wrong with this forum.
 
I think there was a line in ep one about the Doctor trying sleeping once but did not like it.

Sleep is for Tortoises.

And I'm another one who would have liked to see the original control room.

I would have loved that. Probably the cheapest to recreate too, since it was pretty bare bones.

I view this episode a lot like I viewed Midnight. Did not expect much from it, but it wowed me. Really, the entire premise seemed like it would be dumb. But it was pulled off really well (plus, Amy's line towards the end sold it for me).

BTW, the removal of the bunkbeds has set in motion Amy's timelord baby :p
 
Christ on a cross, is this what passes for Doctor Who now? Some fanwank, some nonsense...completely unengaging. At least I could be bothered to hate the RTD stuff. The Tardis becoming a woman is the kind of idea a 14 year old would write in their fanfic read by about 3 people. I thought Gaiman was an author, or something.

On the upside, Matt Smith was marginally less jarring than his dreadful Jar Jar performances from ACC onwards (really, it's like he's an 8 year old with learning difficulties who's dressed up from his grandad's wardrobe), and I think Rory's death-o-meter just ticked over 5000.

Fucking brilliant, whoever gave it a Not Good, I give you satire and small regard
Oh.

You know, if I said the same thing about people who disagreed with me, I wouldn't be allowed back.

She's watched the other half, while ranting that "this cheese does nothing for me, it's bad fanfic, total pants, trying to tug your heartstrings but just cheesy" - for a minute I thought I was married to Bones there...
I should be so lucky.

She's spot on, of course. Especially about the fanfic part. Tardis as a person is exactly the kind of awful fanwank idea that hundreds of fans have probably started writing, only to realise it's rubbish. And yet Writing God Gaiman didn't seem to.
So, no, your wife isn't Bones. Just perceptive.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Poor Larry. First The Pandorica Opens rips off Alien Bodies and now this.

Still, at least he realised it wasn't worth a full novel or episode.

Infraction for trolling. There isn't even a point to saying "comments to PM", so I doubt it matters here
 
Best episode since Waters of Mars for me, at least haven't enjoyed an episode as much as I did that since WoM. First Series 5/6 episode I've really enjoyed, and haven't come out confused with a lot of questions. Brilliant, well done Neil Gaiman.
 
Squeeeeeeee! That's my reaction throughout pretty much the entire episode. :D

That was absolutely brilliant! Neil Gaiman didn't disappoint, at all.

I need to watch that again.
 
I really enjoyed the episode, it's too bad they couldn't show some of the classic Who control rooms or even a future one.
It was also nice to see the interior corridors of the NuWho TARDIS
 
Think my favorite line was when the Doctor says to Idris that she never took him where he wanted to go and got the reply "I took you where you needed to go".

As good and exposition as any for why the TARDIS is always so unreliable :)
 
I have to admit I was worried about this one because it's been something like 3 years now that Neil Gaiman had been linked to doing a Doctor Who episode. I was worried the expectations were too high.

But he knocked it out of the park, as far as I'm concerned. I've been waiting for the Moffat era to deliver its own Blink or Girl in the Fireplace. Vincent and the Doctor came within a hair, but this one hit the gold standard.

It's an episode that's going to be debated for years, but in a good way, I hope. And in one fell swoop it actually finally revealed a number of things that have been questions since 1963. Maybe that's why it for some reason has pissed a few (a very very very few) people off.

Anyway, say hello to the episode that's going to earn Doctor Who its first Emmy nominations.

Alex
 
Just starting to air on BBCA here but I liked this exchange:

"It's mail from a time lord!"
"I thought you said none remain."
"Not in this universe."
"But I thought we can't hop universes."
*flips a couple switches*
"No problem."

"The TARDIS is losing power, that's impossible!" :lol:
 
This was my favorite episode of this season and I thought that it would be given Gaiman was the writer. Just so many great things about this episode. It's in my top three now favorite episodes.
 
Well, that was...different. I've always been interested in seeing things from the TARDIS's point of view, but now that we have, it's a bit disappointing. Maybe disappointing isn't the proper term, and maybe it's nothing, really. Just one of those things which you've imagined a certain way for years, and when you see someone else do their take on it there's no possible way it could be satisfactory.

The fact there were no Time Lords on the planet/asteroid/House/whatever would have been disappointing if it weren't so damn predictable.

While it certainly was an entertaining episode, there's just something I can't put my finger on that just doesn't do it enough for me to call it awesome. I don't know, maybe it's just the hype surrounding it being The Neil Gaiman Episode set my expectations higher.

The interplay between the Doctor and Idris/the TARDIS was fun anyway, and certain moments were touching ("I've always gotten you where you need to be") and amusing ("which one's Amy? The pretty one?" Message gets sent to Rory. "Bunk beds are cool.") But otherwise, this episode didn't really do it for me.

On a final note, I noticed in the end credits, RTD got a credit for creating the Ood. Shouldn't whoever wrote The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit be credited for creating the Ood? And for that matter, back in The Pandorica Opens, there were several aliens present that were legitemately created by RTD (Judoon, Sycorax, Hoix) yet he didn't get credited in the closing credits there. In fact, I think they only listed Terry Nation for creating the Daleks then. So what's the deal here?

EDIT: Almost forgot, a nitpick. Didn't Idris say the Doctor's been travelling in the TARDIS for 700 years? I guess if we accept his age as 900 this would mean he was 200 whe he took the TARDIS. But then the Ninth Doctor actually said "900 years of phone box travel" making it clear he's had the TARDIS for 900 years. But then, the Doctor's age is so much a contrived mess that it's only logical the lenght of time he's had the TARDIS would be too.
 
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