Found this while being up sleepless, not sure its ever been posted before here?
Voyager Never Really Worked
Never really though of Be'lana as Meg?
Voyager Never Really Worked
Never really though of Be'lana as Meg?
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Jesus, it's obvious this person has never watched VOY.
Oh but of course this IS like Picard because he totally did that, he was totally into it. Prancing, frilly.. RuPicard, that's what they should have called him.
But don't despair! He lists Neelix as one of VOY's best characters.
And of course..
I have never seen anyone compare her to Picard, ever. I have seen plenty say she was the most like Kirk though.. but even if you don't agree with that Picard? No.
Right. Because that happened so many times. Like that one time. When it happened. Obviously must have skipped the white tux poor fellow.
Oh but of course this IS like Picard because he totally did that, he was totally into it. Prancing, frilly.. RuPicard, that's what they should have called him.
But don't despair! He lists Neelix as one of VOY's best characters.
And of course..
Oh yeah, it's totally clear the person who wrote that blog hasn't watched Voyager very much.
Teacake is absolutely right, if there was a Captain who I would say had a personality which was the most Kirk-like, it was our beloved Janeway. I've always felt Mulgrew's reading of the lines seemed to be channelling a TOS-era Shatner at times, albeit unconsciously so (or maybe even subliminally?).
Teacake is absolutely right, if there was a Captain who I would say had a personality which was the most Kirk-like, it was our beloved Janeway. I've always felt Mulgrew's reading of the lines seemed to be channelling a TOS-era Shatner at times, albeit unconsciously so (or maybe even subliminally?).
Too each their own. If you like Voyager for what it's was great, if you have issues with parts of VoYager fair enough. We all have different tastes, we've all watched different shows. For some VOY was their introduction to ST for others it was their 2nd, 3rd, 4th ST show and that could influence how they percieved it.
I enjoy Voyager for what it is - light entertainment. And I enjoy it more than I do TNG and DS9.
Agreed. I don't hate Voyager, I just find it painfully dull about 70% of the time. Though it did have some glorious moments.
I was definitely not expecting Neelix to be presented as one of VOY's most interesting characters. You might as well say all of ENT's best lines went to Travis Mayweather.
Yep. It was a terrible blog anyway.
Except.. Neelix had more personality and more storylines in his whiskers than (who was it again?) had in a whole 4 seasons.
Travis who?
Oh, you know! That recurring extra who was always around the bridge. Fanon gave him a name just as a joke, kind of like all those stormtroopers in A New Hope with novels written about them..
Three words for objection 1:
Year of Hell
I mean, seriously? Janeway was mostly action Captain (which I liked).
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I don't know what the B'Lanna hate is about. I liked her character. That's all I can say. Since when does B'Lanna = Neelix?
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It is a SUPER-overreaction to a few character flourishes to call Chakotay a "racist character." PC much?
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Did this guy even watch Voyager? This comment blows my mind:
"I’m not even sure the ship’s security officer Tuvok, despite the pointed ears, is actually a Vulcan."
Are you freaking KIDDING me?! Tim Russ was a fantastic Vulcan! His extra injection of sourpuss into the character was wonderful. MY main complaint with Voyager was that there wasn't more Tuvok screen time and less Paris/Kim.
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Oh...My...God:
"The show’s best characters are a holographic Doctor who spends most of his time confined to sickbay and probably isn’t real anyway, an alien explorer who they’ve decided to stick behind a stove in their kitchen, and a recently liberated, super-hot Borg who spends all her time standing around in a cargo bay or sitting in front of a map somewhere in the bowels of the ship."
This idiot thinks MORE NEELIX would have made Voyager better. Ok, is this a joke? Is this a Scrappleface parody?
And since when is chief medical officer a character not in charge of anything? He may not be in the line officer chain of command, but he's damn important. And what does the "probably not real" comment mean? This Josh doesn't sound like much of a Trek fan to me. Even if the Doctor wasn't fully sentient/self-aware (which he absolutely was, even at the start), he'd still be a real hologram. But this is nothing I have to tell Voyager fans; the question is why this guy would write something that sounds as if it's from the perspective of someone who really barely ever paid attention to the series. Sounds more like someone who watched some episodes but never really got into it.
As for 7, she's such a wild card that her actual rank hardly matters. Plus all that this guy seems to care about is that she's "super-hot," not that she was a very interesting addition to the crew and who--that is, Jeri Ryan--turned out to be an excellent actress.
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Ok, I agree to some extent with objection 6. But not enough to call it a show-killer/wrecker.
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Objection 7 is perhaps justified somewhat, but the replicator is part of canon so why would they suddenly not use it? As for the holodeck use, now the fool is just contradicting his own objection in number 6--why isn't what they're doing more consistent with a ship wholly separated from its fleet and all support. They're all alone in the Delta Quadrant, of course they're going to use the holodeck a lot. And we got some damn good stories out of it too, like "The Killing Game."
Year of Hell
I mean, seriously? Janeway was mostly action Captain (which I liked).
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I don't know what the B'Lanna hate is about. I liked her character. That's all I can say. Since when does B'Lanna = Neelix?
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It is a SUPER-overreaction to a few character flourishes to call Chakotay a "racist character." PC much?
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Did this guy even watch Voyager? This comment blows my mind:
"I’m not even sure the ship’s security officer Tuvok, despite the pointed ears, is actually a Vulcan."
Are you freaking KIDDING me?! Tim Russ was a fantastic Vulcan! His extra injection of sourpuss into the character was wonderful. MY main complaint with Voyager was that there wasn't more Tuvok screen time and less Paris/Kim.
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Oh...My...God:
"The show’s best characters are a holographic Doctor who spends most of his time confined to sickbay and probably isn’t real anyway, an alien explorer who they’ve decided to stick behind a stove in their kitchen, and a recently liberated, super-hot Borg who spends all her time standing around in a cargo bay or sitting in front of a map somewhere in the bowels of the ship."
This idiot thinks MORE NEELIX would have made Voyager better. Ok, is this a joke? Is this a Scrappleface parody?
And since when is chief medical officer a character not in charge of anything? He may not be in the line officer chain of command, but he's damn important. And what does the "probably not real" comment mean? This Josh doesn't sound like much of a Trek fan to me. Even if the Doctor wasn't fully sentient/self-aware (which he absolutely was, even at the start), he'd still be a real hologram. But this is nothing I have to tell Voyager fans; the question is why this guy would write something that sounds as if it's from the perspective of someone who really barely ever paid attention to the series. Sounds more like someone who watched some episodes but never really got into it.
As for 7, she's such a wild card that her actual rank hardly matters. Plus all that this guy seems to care about is that she's "super-hot," not that she was a very interesting addition to the crew and who--that is, Jeri Ryan--turned out to be an excellent actress.
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Ok, I agree to some extent with objection 6. But not enough to call it a show-killer/wrecker.
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Objection 7 is perhaps justified somewhat, but the replicator is part of canon so why would they suddenly not use it? As for the holodeck use, now the fool is just contradicting his own objection in number 6--why isn't what they're doing more consistent with a ship wholly separated from its fleet and all support. They're all alone in the Delta Quadrant, of course they're going to use the holodeck a lot. And we got some damn good stories out of it too, like "The Killing Game."
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I think the dialogue is a lot better than TNG's (not DS9 though, no way).
Travis who?
Oh, you know! That recurring extra who was always around the bridge. Fanon gave him a name just as a joke, kind of like all those stormtroopers in A New Hope with novels written about them..
Oh, I see. He's the Davin Felth of Trekdom.
He is not even that, he is ice cream maker guy.
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