Now imagine if they'd latched onto the demons running around Nine or Tens subconscience. That would have been really scary.
Indeed, it would. The Dreamlord really seemed to be dealing with each character's fears about the other characters. Rory's feelings of not being as cool as the Doctor, the Doctor as some kind of conscienceless monster, and Amy's being torn between the Doctor and Rory. I think the Dreamlord isn't just the Doctor and would be quite different if their were others present. Imagine the Doctor and the Master together in this problem?Now imagine if they'd latched onto the demons running around Nine or Tens subconscience. That would have been really scary.
This is getting quite hilarious now. It is so obviously biting, and biting makes much more sense.
And of course it was a joke, or if not a joke as someone said a punchline. As I recall the scene goes something like this...
"I had to see four psychiatrists..." pause while she looks all shifty. ‘I kept biting them.'
As opposed to...
"I had to see four psychiatrists..." pause while she looks all shifty. ‘I kept fighting them.'
No, the scene went this way:
Steven Moffat said:THE DOCTOR: You're Amelia!
AMY: You're late.
THE DOCTOR: Amelia Pond -- you're the little girl!
AMY: I'm Amelia, and you're late!
THE DOCTOR: What happened?
AMY: Twelve years.
THE DOCTOR: You hit me with a cricket bat!
AMY: Twelve years!
THE DOCTOR: A cricket bat!
AMY: Twelve years and four psychiatrists!
THE DOCTOR: Four?
AMY: I kept fighting them.
THE DOCTOR: Why?
AMY: .... They said you weren't real.
"Fighting" -- that is, refusing to acknowledge that the Doctor was not real -- is obviously much less serious an answer and more in tone with a romp for the whole family than a child biting someone. "Fighting" is a word that simply implies a refusal to accept what they tell her to accept; "biting" is an actual act of violence.
"Fighting." The idea of her biting someone is just disturbing.
Hey Starkers, remember when I told you I didn't care?
Yes, I saw the same episode you did. I heard "fighting." I saw it again, and I heard "fighting." Then I saw it again, and I heard "fighting. Then I saw it yet again, and I heard "fighting." Then I looked at that scene again after this debate popped up, and I heard "fighting."
Now, I could be mishearing it, but so could you. Until I see a script or hear from Moffat or Gillan, I'm not buying that she said "biting."
For this, however, you win the Internet.![]()
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The Doctor: I know who you are. There is only one person in the universe who hates me as much as you, though he can't possibly be here..
Or something like that.
I think it may be The Valeyard. Possibly the early stages of his development..
Well, the Valeyard is the Doctor, so the implication that he is referring to himself does not rule out the possibility of the other.
Also, the Dreamlord's actions fit with the modus operandi of the Valeyard - the last we saw of him he was manipulating dreams/illusions in the matrix..
Still, I could be barking up the wrong tree.
I think we got a big effing clue to "why" behind the Valeyard in "End of Time" with 10 and his fear of dying/regeneration. For me that was the moment right there that cement that the Valeyard was inevitable.Well, the Valeyard is the Doctor, so the implication that he is referring to himself does not rule out the possibility of the other.
Also, the Dreamlord's actions fit with the modus operandi of the Valeyard - the last we saw of him he was manipulating dreams/illusions in the matrix..
Still, I could be barking up the wrong tree.
Well, make room in the tree for me. That's the first thing I thought of, that this was merely another glimpse into the psychological path that could/will lead to the Valeyard persona.
For his next appearance, the Dream Lord should be played by Colin Baker....![]()
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