5x011 The Lodger (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

[davejames]

I'm a bit let down because "The Lodger" had potential to be an amazing study of the Doctor's psyche, but instead they just made a lazy stab at comedy.

I thought the episode was fun and witty and not lazy at all... but I agree a more serious, alternative version like you describe would have been interesting too.

Although there's the risk such a story could make him look like a complete imbecile, if he can't even clean or do the laundry. lol

For me the better option would be to take the lighthearted story we got, but work in a few more serious moments of self-reflection. Maybe just a scene of him on a park bench watching life slowly roll by, and realizing that he actually CAN enjoy this.

 

[ParticleMan]

She was in Psychoville and I think she was in the episode of ashes to ashes that my avatar is taken from.

I think was Psychoville I didn't like her in and it's kinda stuck. Too bloody cute and sweet in this, if anything.

I did think of a question for this episode actually - is this the first time the Doctor has explicitly stated which incarnation he is? He told Craig outright he was the Eleventh version of himself.

It is the first time for this Doctor...didn't 5 say something indicating which one he was at some point too?

 

[David cgc]

In "The Five Doctors," when he met the first. Something like,

FIRST: Regeneration?
FIFTH: Four times, now.
FIRST: Good Lord, so there are five of me running around.

 

[DAK]

Remember in "Amy's Choice" when he sits on the bench between what's-his-name and the very pregnant Amy? How just the description of how they lived bored Eleven to tears? This episode should have forced that upon him. Pizza, telly, and booze? Bring it on! Let me see the Doctor go five minutes without disassembling the remote and putting it back together better than it was before with lots of fun and dangerous new features!

Except this time he had a mystery to solve: the guy upstairs, the time loops, the TARDIS being unable to materialize - and he had to do it without sonicing. He had to be creative and resourceful and not let on who he was. So he was hardly bored to tears.

 

[ParticleMan]

In "The Five Doctors," when he met the first. Something like,

FIRST: Regeneration?
FIFTH: Four times, now.
FIRST: Good Lord, so there are five of me running around.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was thinking of...

 

[Brendan Moody]

The TV-movie also explicitly describes the Sylvester McCoy version as his "seventh life." And "Mawdryn Undead," in which the fifth Doctor says he has eight remaining incarnations, was the first such explicit confirmation.

 

[David cgc]

But the Morbius Doctors OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1111!!one

 

[Snick27]

well, she's got her knockers...

and i thought they were nice ones too!

thank you, i'm here all week, try the venison.

oh yes very nice!

 

[Captain Shaw]

When the doctor first started to play football I thought he might end up scoring a load of home goals.

 

[Jax]

The Appreciation Index figure for The Lodger was 87, joint highest of the series so far.

 

[Pindar]

Hmm, an episode of two halves.

I hate football but fancy Daisy Haggard.

Probably my least favourite this year, although I still enjoyed it and laughed throughout

 

[Starkers]

Still would have been funnier if he'd gone "Football, is that anything like cricket?"

 

[DAK]

Still would have been funnier if he'd gone "Football, is that anything like cricket?"

He sort of did - he said something like "Is football the one with the sticks?"

 

[Pindar]

Still would have been funnier if he'd gone "Football, is that anything like cricket?"

He sort of did - he said something like "Is football the one with the sticks?"

For all I know about football it could be the one with the sticks.

 

[DAK]

Still would have been funnier if he'd gone "Football, is that anything like cricket?"

He sort of did - he said something like "Is football the one with the sticks?"

For all I know about football it could be the one with the sticks.

I knew it didn't involve sticks, but I still call it "soccer".

 

[Captain Pike]

Average. And that's probably a bit generous.

The screwdriver gag was too goofy: the doctor has used ordinary tools (even screwdrivers) before. I find it improbable in the extreme that this incarnation has forgotten.

 

[Lensman]

captcalhoun wrote:
well, she's got her knockers...

and i thought they were nice ones too!

thank you, i'm here all week, try the venison.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmBcp20UfJc

 

[Checkmate]

Average. And that's probably a bit generous.

The screwdriver gag was too goofy: the doctor has used ordinary tools (even screwdrivers) before. I find it improbable in the extreme that this incarnation has forgotten.

Who said he did? He used it as an excuse to involve himself in their conversation. In case you missed it, he was manipulating both of them into admitting their affection for each other, and to that he needed to get involved with them.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

For all I know about football it could be the one with the sticks.

As surprisingly as that may sound, football is mostly played with human feet and spherical balls.

 

[Captain Pike]

Average. And that's probably a bit generous.

The screwdriver gag was too goofy: the doctor has used ordinary tools (even screwdrivers) before. I find it improbable in the extreme that this incarnation has forgotten.

Who said he did? He used it as an excuse to involve himself in their conversation. In case you missed it, he was manipulating both of them into admitting their affection for each other, and to that he needed to get involved with them.

I realise, all too well, it's use in the story. Nevertheless, for the price of an unfunny gag, the doctor is made to look like an idiot.