5 Things We Want to See in the next Movie according to PopMech

[xavier]

^... complete with visible zippers on a rubber suit... NO. Let's bring these aliens up-to-date, IF we are to use them at all.

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5- Takei would be good to use in a role which is important to the plot. He is an excellent Trek actor and positive role model for gay people everywhere. Perhaps his character is also gay... as has been said, "In a SUBTLE way"...

Bi maybe. He has a kid before Kirk was "lost" in Generations.

As stated, Takei's CHARACTER in TOS movies had a child. Many gay people have children, however, so that is a non-issue. I did not state that he should reprise his role. This would be a re-hash of an already overused plot device. Takei should play a new character.

Pine could deliver a "risk is our business" type speech before heading into a dangerous mission, be it a first contact situation, battle, or covert operation. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

On second thought, does Shatner do master classes?

If he does, let us hope Mr. Pine declines to attend.

I know this may be an unpopular opinion but I am not a fan of Takei. His feud with Shatner has made him unlikeable to me. He only seems to be in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. I wish he would go away.He is not needed for Trek 3.I will take Shatner for a cameo over him.

 

[M'Sharak]

I know this may be an unpopular opinion but I am not a fan of Takei. His feud with Shatner has made him unlikeable to me. He only seems to be in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. I wish he would go away.

What's that got to do with the topic, though? Not a thing.

If you don't care for George, then fine—that's your prerogative—but statements such as the above belong in your blog, not shoehorned into a thread which is about something else. Here, it's a non sequitur.

 

[Maurice]

If you don't care for George, then fine—that's your prerogative—but statements such as the above belong in your blog, not shoehorned into a thread which is about something else. Here, it's a non sequitur.

But the article the OP was referring to does specifically call for a Takei cameo, and we are discussing if we agree with this list. From the OP:

Article on Popular Mechanics on what they would like to see in the next Star Trek movie:

5. A George Takei Cameo

Active in both the Trekkie and LGBT communities, the original Sulu actor did exactly what any iconic one-role star should: wait several decades and then reappear as a witty, charming Internet presence. We'd love to see him appear the way Nimoy did in the previous two films, and it sounds like he's all for it himself.

 

[urbandefault]

I wouldn't be opposed to a Takei cameo, maybe as an Academy fencing instructor.

 

[BigJake]

It is however simply not true that Takei is only in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. He certainly isn't shy on the topic of Shatner when asked, but that's not the same thing. (And PopMech is right, by the by: he is a genuinely witty, charming Internet presence.)

 

[BillJ]

It is however simply not true that Takei is only in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. He certainly isn't shy on the topic of Shatner when asked, but that's not the same thing. (And PopMech is right, by the by: he is a genuinely witty, charming Internet presence.)

+1

 

[Sparky]

Whatever the third movie ends up being I hope that they slow down a bit. I enjoyed both 09 and Into Darkness, but the pacing doesn't give you a chance to breathe. Have some more character interaction/building moments like Kirk and McCoy talking about getting old in Wrath of Khan, or Kirk and Spock walking by the water talking about colorful metaphors in Voyage Home. Hell, even The Final Frontier had some great character moments in there. Give the actors and characters a chance to shine instead of just running, shooting, yelling and fighting. Not every scene has to have 5 second cuts.

 

[fireproof78]

It is however simply not true that Takei is only in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. He certainly isn't shy on the topic of Shatner when asked, but that's not the same thing. (And PopMech is right, by the by: he is a genuinely witty, charming Internet presence.)

+1

Yep. I think Takei has the right balance of being famous and owning that stardom, without being dramatic about it.

It's an older appearance, but he had a blast appearing on Big Bang Theory, and interviewing with Katee Sackhoff, and giving her a rough time over her saying that "Her dad would love this (meeting Takei)." He comments that it is always someone's dad who would love this and never anyone younger

 

[BigJake]

It is however simply not true that Takei is only in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. He certainly isn't shy on the topic of Shatner when asked, but that's not the same thing. (And PopMech is right, by the by: he is a genuinely witty, charming Internet presence.)

+1

How close are we to our ten-agreement cupcake* are we, anyway? I'm looking forward to it.

* Or cheeseburger, or massive bender, or whatever.

 

[xavier]

Whatever the third movie ends up being I hope that they slow down a bit. I enjoyed both 09 and Into Darkness, but the pacing doesn't give you a chance to breathe. Have some more character interaction/building moments like Kirk and McCoy talking about getting old in Wrath of Khan, or Kirk and Spock walking by the water talking about colorful metaphors in Voyage Home. Hell, even The Final Frontier had some great character moments in there. Give the actors and characters a chance to shine instead of just running, shooting, yelling and fighting. Not every scene has to have 5 second cuts.

This is a criticsm I share with you. the pacing of the film is ridiculous . I think JJ made it that way because he wants people to forget they are watching star trek and think they are watching star wars.

star trek at the heart is about human philosophy which means we human we talk and interact with each other a lot before we fight each other. star wars is the opposite and that is why it is called star WARS and that is also why star wars is usually action packed.

JJ Abrams definetely used the star wars formula in his star trek films which explains why the trek films have so much action and little human interaction, a perfect example is the romance in into darkness. JJ forced spock and uhura to talk about their relationship on a way to a mission.when he could have created a peaceful time and space for them to talk about it with things not blowing up around them.

The human interaction in the news films is secondary. JJ Abrams obviously favors action sequences over humans talking to each other.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

^... complete with visible zippers on a rubber suit... NO. Let's bring these aliens up-to-date, IF we are to use them at all.

Bi maybe. He has a kid before Kirk was "lost" in Generations.

As stated, Takei's CHARACTER in TOS movies had a child. Many gay people have children, however, so that is a non-issue. I did not state that he should reprise his role. This would be a re-hash of an already overused plot device. Takei should play a new character.

Pine could deliver a "risk is our business" type speech before heading into a dangerous mission, be it a first contact situation, battle, or covert operation. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

On second thought, does Shatner do master classes?

If he does, let us hope Mr. Pine declines to attend.

I know this may be an unpopular opinion but I am not a fan of Takei. His feud with Shatner has made him unlikeable to me. He only seems to be in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. I wish he would go away.He is not needed for Trek 3.I will take Shatner for a cameo over him.

I've seen George in the media several times and follow him on Facebook, too, and I've actually never seen him bashing Shatner at all (I think there might have been some words mentioned at a convention I went to once, but that was years ago and I was really too young to even be sure). So I guess he is most definitely not only in the media to feud with Bill.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Star Wars has a much slower pace than Star Trek or Into Darkness has. Abrams sped things up because he was making blockbuster summer movies in 2009 and 2013, to those standards, and not trying to recreate the atmosphere of 80's Trek films.

 

[BillJ]

It is however simply not true that Takei is only in the media when he wants to bash Shatner. He certainly isn't shy on the topic of Shatner when asked, but that's not the same thing. (And PopMech is right, by the by: he is a genuinely witty, charming Internet presence.)

+1

How close are we to our ten-agreement cupcake* are we, anyway? I'm looking forward to it.

* Or cheeseburger, or massive bender, or whatever.

Obviously needs to be a massive bender as the world will be ending!

 

[SPCTRE]

What I'd like to see is a movie about exploration and facing a foe which is like a galactic force of nature, or even not a foe at all, just a challenge for the crew to overcome.

So, nuTMP?

I'm only half-kidding, I completely agree with your greater point. No more trying to recapture the TWOK "magic" (that was thrice in a row now, just let it go) would be a great start.

 

[xavier]

If you don't care for George, then fine—that's your prerogative—but statements such as the above belong in your blog, not shoehorned into a thread which is about something else. Here, it's a non sequitur.

But the article the OP was referring to does specifically call for a Takei cameo, and we are discussing if we agree with this list. From the OP:

Article on Popular Mechanics on what they would like to see in the next Star Trek movie:

5. A George Takei Cameo

Active in both the Trekkie and LGBT communities, the original Sulu actor did exactly what any iconic one-role star should: wait several decades and then reappear as a witty, charming Internet presence. We'd love to see him appear the way Nimoy did in the previous two films, and it sounds like he's all for it himself.

Thank you for defending me, I am still new to this site and I do not understand the laws. Its like any criticism you give is seen as an attack and an insult in this site and it makes little sense to me. I do not intend to be rude.

I criticized George Takei, what mshark maybe fails to realize is that at times, an actor can affect the outcome of a film when he plays a character in the film.

A perfect example is Tom Cruise and all his antics about Scientology and his attack on Brooke Shields. It undoubtedly affected his box office and Paramount had to cut ties with him.

I can also proof this point with ben affleck and jennifer lopez with their ill fated film called Gigli. there romance was overexposed and it affacted the film badly. people did not see the film just as many of tom cruise fans who were largely women did not see some of his film from year 2005 due to his behavior in the media.

I at times am one of those people. An actor's antics in the public/media can turn me off when I see him as a character in film and this is why I am lukewarm on Takei coming back to Star Trek films. I do not like all his Shatner bashing in the media. infact it reminds me of tom cruise bashing brooke shields. I will stay away from Takei works as I did with Tom Cruise.

Willam Shatner seems to be the classier guy of the two, He has wished Takei well in life. Takei is still the one doing the bashing and this is why I will prefer of William to come back instead of Takei.

I hope I have explained my points a lot better.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Takei should play Nogura.

 

[fireproof78]

Takei should play Nogura.

That would be fun, but I also want to say that one of the Starfleet Academy review board in Trek 09.

If you don't care for George, then fine—that's your prerogative—but statements such as the above belong in your blog, not shoehorned into a thread which is about something else. Here, it's a non sequitur.

But the article the OP was referring to does specifically call for a Takei cameo, and we are discussing if we agree with this list. From the OP:

Article on Popular Mechanics on what they would like to see in the next Star Trek movie:

Thank you for defending me, I am still new to this site and I do not understand the laws. Its like any criticism you give is seen as an attack and an insult in this site and it makes little sense to me. I do not intend to be rude.

I criticized George Takei, what mshark maybe fails to realize is that at times, an actor can affect the outcome of a film when he plays a character in the film.

A perfect example is Tom Cruise and all his antics about Scientology and his attack on Brooke Shields. It undoubtedly affected his box office and Paramount had to cut ties with him.

I can also proof this point with ben affleck and jennifer lopez with their ill fated film called Gigli. there romance was overexposed and it affacted the film badly. people did not see the film just as many of tom cruise fans who were largely women did not see some of his film from year 2005 due to his behavior in the media.

I at times am one of those people. An actor's antics in the public/media can turn me off when I see him as a character in film and this is why I am lukewarm on Takei coming back to Star Trek films. I do not like all his Shatner bashing in the media. infact it reminds me of tom cruise bashing brooke shields. I will stay away from Takei works as I did with Tom Cruise.

Willam Shatner seems to be the classier guy of the two, He has wished Takei well in life. Takei is still the one doing the bashing and this is why I will prefer of William to come back instead of Takei.

I hope I have explained my points a lot better.

I can understand this point. I felt that way towards Liam Neeson for a while, and still have little interest in Jennifer Lawrence due to her real life antics.

However, Takei has done little to earn my animosity but, neither has Shatner, so I'm not worried about one or the other. Either one has just as much reasons to be in a Trek film as Nimoy did. Takei has even appeared in a fan film, so I find that more encouraging toward Takei. Your mileage may vary on this.

As for the pacing of the films, I don't get a Star Wars vibe so much as an action vibe. The film felt a little bit like "Avengers" to me, but I have no complaints about such a feeling either. There was plenty of subtext and character moments that I enjoyed and found interesting that really kept the movies, especially ID, alive for me. Again, your mileage may vary.

Also, to address a more direct point of yours, Spock was not willing to talk about his relationship with Uhura. That was the point of talking in the middle of the mission-Spock could not get out of it, or avoid the conversation in any way. Inappropriate? Perhaps, but you can find that in ANY Trek series or film.

 

[Commishsleer]

Takei should play Nogura.

Hey thats a cool idea.

Who cares what Takei says about Shatner? Shatner has enough outlets to defend himself and Shatner is big enough to withstand criticism.

Its good to see some life in the old guys telling each other to get off their lawns.

 

[BillJ]

Its good to see some life in the old guys telling each other to get off their lawns.

Shatner and Takei should star in the next installment of Grumpy Old Men.

 

[Hypaspist]

I like George Takei but I have to agree: stop being angry at Shat. Neither has a ton of years left and I'd like to look at both of them in the best light possible.