4 Clip descriptions from Empire *Spoiler heavy*

[Qonos]

^ Which fans? Different people have different ideas of what Star Trek is or should be. There have been five different Trek TV shows that someone will call their favorite.

The whiners here who bitch and moan the same song and dance with every post think they're the one true fanbase who knows what Star Trek is all about. Hell, some of those crybabies will watch this movie more times than anyone here who loves it just so they can tell us how right they were!

I'm not denying that...I'm just suggesting that "you dance with the date that brung ya", as it were.

Would it have been that hard to write their story keeping the facts of the various characters' back stories straight? Would it have hurt to keep their PERSONALITIES straight? (Kirk may be a womanizer, but a pawing letch?) Would it have hurt to stay closer to the original sets and ship design?

If you can have BOTH sets of fans happy, why not try for that? To dismiss ALL of them just because a few of them are a little obsessive seems to be to be unecessary disrespect for those whose dollars for 4 decades have kept this franchise alive.

There is such a thing as "middle ground" here, but people don't want to see that (on BOTH sides).

Well that depends on where the back story came from. If it came from the TV shows fine. If it came from the RPG material, the Techmanuals or the Novels then it's best to leave it out. If it's some supposition or contecture that never made it into any story, or was in fanfic then hell no out it goes.

BTW a great man once said "You can't please everyone."

 

[Captain Robert April]

No big deal, you can't please everyone. Take Robert April up there: he wouldn't be happy unless the movie was composed of footage cut-and pasted from the old episodes and based on a novel written by DC Fontana. Who gives a shit, he'll probably go see it anyways, enjoy it, and then come here and complain about how much he hated it. C'est la vie!

Speak for yourself, Spanky.

 

[JoeZhang]

No big deal, you can't please everyone. Take Robert April up there: he wouldn't be happy unless the movie was composed of footage cut-and pasted from the old episodes and based on a novel written by DC Fontana. Who gives a shit, he'll probably go see it anyways, enjoy it, and then come here and complain about how much he hated it. C'est la vie!

Speak for yourself, Spanky.

So you are registering your disgust by not going to see it? very principled of you.

 

[Nameless Crewman]

Well from what I have read it sounds like one big teenage writers fan wank. Too much interaction between the main cast early in their careers.

I suppose it's okay if this is a full blown re-boot or somehow the time travel story line has changed things.

I'll watch it of course, but I can't help getting the Harve Bennett "Starfleet Acadamy" taste in my mouth!

 

[Inquisitive]

I was just reading the Den of Geek production design review and had a couple of questions regarding what he said.

This comment in particular stuck out at me, "...as well as impressive pictures of a huge extruded oval hanger containing hundreds of shuttlecraft, some in flight." Is he referincing the Ent.'s shuttle bay here? If so, I wonder if the size of the Enterprise has been increased drastically from what Memory Alpha cites as 289m for a Constitution class. I do not recall there ever being hundreds of shuttle craft aboard any Federation starship, could we be looking at Star Wars size starships in the new Trek?

I am glad that the Klingon designs have not changed much, as I always felt they were well done. The Romulan changes sound pretty radical to me, so I cannot wait to see what they have done with them.

 

[Tulin]

She orders a round, including a fire tea, Budweiser classics and some Cardassian sunrises.

That's as far as I read. Uhura is ordering Cardassian drinks? Referance to Cardassians in the 23rd century?

COCKFUCKERY!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you intended ironic humour, you succeeded.

If you are being serious.....you are scary.

 

[Qonos]

She orders a round, including a fire tea, Budweiser classics and some Cardassian sunrises.

That's as far as I read. Uhura is ordering Cardassian drinks? Referance to Cardassians in the 23rd century?

COCKFUCKERY!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you intended ironic humour, you succeeded.

If you are being serious.....you are scary.

Didn't you know Uhura is a Neo-Temperist and would NEVER order Alcohol...


Wait what?

 

[btflash]

It's even worse than I'd imagined.

after reading abrams script for superman this doesnt surprise me! i was looking forward to this movie. now i dont think i even want to see it!

 

[Ovation]

It's even worse than I'd imagined.

after reading abrams script for superman this doesnt surprise me! i was looking forward to this movie. now i dont think i even want to see it!

Then don't. Heaven forbid people actually see a movie before deciding it's horrible.

 

[DeafPoet]

^

To be fair, there'd be five months with precious little moral outrage if everyone followed that advice

 

[btflash]

It's even worse than I'd imagined.

after reading abrams script for superman this doesnt surprise me! i was looking forward to this movie. now i dont think i even want to see it!

Then don't. Heaven forbid people actually see a movie before deciding it's horrible.

sorry, it just doesnt sound very good! great action does not a great film make. kirk grabbing uhuras breasts???? sorry , thats just comedy for comedys sake.somewhere in the hereafter gene roddenberry is doing a facepalm.

 

[cultcross]

sorry, it just doesnt sound very good! great action does not a great film make. kirk grabbing uhuras breasts???? sorry , thats just comedy for comedys sake.somewhere in the hereafter gene roddenberry is doing a facepalm.

Totally unprecedented. Next they'll be talking about them firming up.
Don't they know we don't care about such things in this day and age?

 

[btflash]

sorry, it just doesnt sound very good! great action does not a great film make. kirk grabbing uhuras breasts???? sorry , thats just comedy for comedys sake.somewhere in the hereafter gene roddenberry is doing a facepalm.

Totally unprecedented. Next they'll be talking about them firming up.
Don't they know we don't care about such things in this day and age?

he,heh!

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's even worse than I'd imagined.

after reading abrams script for superman this doesnt surprise me! i was looking forward to this movie. now i dont think i even want to see it!

Then don't.

Problem solved.

 

[btflash]

redundant!

 

[SalvorHardin]

kirk grabbing uhuras breasts???? sorry , thats just comedy for comedys sake.

Yeah...I would have prefered if he kissed her and then punched her in the face.

 

[trevanian]

redundant!

It's his way.

 

[James Bond]

No big deal, you can't please everyone. Take Robert April up there: he wouldn't be happy unless the movie was composed of footage cut-and pasted from the old episodes and based on a novel written by DC Fontana. Who gives a shit, he'll probably go see it anyways, enjoy it, and then come here and complain about how much he hated it. C'est la vie!

Speak for yourself, Spanky.

So you are registering your disgust by not going to see it? very principled of you.

Make no mistake, he'll go see it - if only to register his disgust throughout the world. In the end, Star Trek will have made an extra 8-10 Dollars.

 

[Peacemaker]

Don't know if anybody's brought this up yet...but don't forget we have the whole "Will our heroes see that Romulans look like Vulcans" in this? I mean, you'd think they'd have some idea at this point since:

1. In Enterprise the Romulans were clearly trying to gain back control of Vulcan.

2. Which seems to be their real motive all along - to sow dissent in the Alliance that becomes the Federation is a means to isolate Vulcan and "reunite."

3. Which may be the real reason for Romulan War itself (perhaps it began with a real attack on Vulcan).

4. So now we get here with Romulans trying to destroy the planet. From a Romulan perspective, Vulcan - not Earth - is the key to ending the Federation.

5. After awhile, you'd think that somebody might have an idea that Romulans have a special interest in Vulcan for some reason.

 

[seigezunt]

Well from what I have read it sounds like one big teenage writers fan wank. Too much interaction between the main cast early in their careers.

I suppose it's okay if this is a full blown re-boot or somehow the time travel story line has changed things.

I'll watch it of course, but I can't help getting the Harve Bennett "Starfleet Acadamy" taste in my mouth!

wait, I'm confused.

Rebooting it is fan-wank.

And keeping it traditional is fan-wank.

What gives?