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3D interiors in Blender

The user on Flickr got back to me:

"Although I am now retired, I was a professor for the previous 20 or so years at the Université de Montréal’s School of Design. Before that, I had an industrial design practice and bought the Ergoform chair for my own use in my office. When I sold my agency and joined the University, I continued to use the seat in my faculty office. Once retired, I donated it to the School’s collection of artifacts designed, for the most part, by industrial designers that graduated from the School. The chair is an exception in that it is the work of Bernard Shalinsky who, in the 70’s, was a professor at the School of Design with a particular interest in ergonomic seating. It began as a research project during his tenure at the School, initially dealing with ergonomic seating for children. He broadened the scope of his investigation to eventually concentrate on task seating. The project took on a life of its own and Bernard Shalinsky left his University job to pursue work on the chair, start a company and manufacture it. It took three years to design and develop (1981 to 1984) and was in production from 1985 to 1991.
The School’s collection is not on show, but could undoubtedly be visited by appointment.
I’ve included two documents with information on both the Ergoform seat and its designer. They are both in French; I don’t have English versions but a Google translation should provide you with the essentials.
You’ll also find three other views of the chair to complement the two on Flickr.
Hope you find all this helpful.
I’ve not visited or uploaded anything to Flickr for ages. I created my own site for my photo work at www.psyon.ca. In searching for other photos of the chair, I was surprised to realize that I had not put any Ergoform pictures on my psyon site. I’ll have to see to it!"

He included 3 more photos from the set that's on Flickr and 2 PDFs, one is the product brochure in French and the other a bio of the designer, also in French.
 
Haha, glad to see so much info pouring in now that we have the name. I do suspect the one on the museum to be a prototype or early sample of sorts, but at this point that's speculation.

That's quite an expensive chair! And given the patent I imagine other companies couldn't get on similar designs, which I guess explains its uniqueness to this day, yet it never managed to get the same iconic status as the scandinavian designs.

Going back to the Emmett Till, I've added the keyboard areas on the side consoles, and started designing the big panels above. I'm still not sure how I'll be using the space inside.

Also, I've de-skewed the photo of the Emmett Till exterior schematics provided by @valkyrie013, and I'm based the MSD area design off of that. I tried using the side profile here, as is common on Trek ships of the 24th Century, but the ship design is so long and thin that it didn't make for a very interesting graphic IMO, so I'm using the top view instead.

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I think you're right about the top view for the MSD, this design looks like the ratio of height to length wouldn't result in a good looking display.
 
If Rekkert were using the two-tiered Enterprise-A/Enterprise-E consoles, he could probably get away with the profile view; in the TNG movies, the cutaway MSD of the Sovereign occupies the upper tier of the display (along with some miscellaneous LCARS and small display monitors), and the lower tier has animated displays running on larger monitors. But with this new style of display he's using, I agree, the top view works better.
 
@cardinal biggles: agreed, with a staggered set of panels the side view would probably work better, but I wanted to avoid precisely that middle cut, make it look like it could be one huge screen.

Got feedback on one of the commissions so I'm moving forward with the Swiftsure bridge. The new side consoles are now added looking to the front. These had a lot of iterations since the last time I posted this bridge. As you can see, I ended up removing the columns and adjusting the whole area a lot more. Plus, the wall console was replaced with the Emmett Till design just for that first station, though the LCARS will logically be of the same style as the rest of my 2380's designs. Modeling is now done for this bridge, I'll be working on bringing in the computer panels next (plus adding labels and other miscellaneous stuff).

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An update on the Ergoform chair, the museum curator got back to me with both measurements on the chair and permission to post the brochure, so, here they are!

I uploaded the brochure to my Drive and you can see it (and download it) from there.

And here are the measurements, which I've drawn over one of the pictures sent last week for easier viewing:
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They must have pushed the seats and backrests all the way to the top for shooting. I don't recall that (for lack of a better description) slide assembly sticking up above the backrest in any of its appearances in the films.
 
The assembly sticks up in most appearances, though indeed the seats are pushed upwards in Trek, so the assembly's a lot less noticeable (being totally black instead of silver as on this specific chair also helps).
See here, here and here.
 
Now that the chair has been identified, it looks like the information and graphics were moved from the article "Unidentified Chairs in Star Trek" to "Commercially Available Chairs in Star Trek."

The new links for the graphics:
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/database/chairs/chairs-allgoodthings.jpg
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/database/chairs/chairs-2-generations.jpg

If those don't work (I know in the past Bernd has blocked hotlinking from his site), the article is here:
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/database/chairs-trek.htm
 
Finishing touches on the Swiftsure. All the LCARS are now in place, and I've replaced the Emmett Till style console with one that's more fitting (I couldn't help myself, had to keep the design consistent). I've also suggested and added handrails to all the perimeter stations, mostly as a consequence of this new console I did, which had an empty space at the bottom that was perfect for a handrail. We're still finishing some details, most importantly the possibility of using a marble texture for the rails, but other than that it's 99% done.

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@Gibraltar: Thanks! :)

Here's the finished Swiftsure bridge! As mentioned on the previous post, indeed we changed the material from both tactical and the rails on the back section to a reddish marble. Can't say it would've been my choice, but if we've seen wood being used in starships, why not marble as well? I guess being a non-organic material it would be even easier to replicate.

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Here's the finished Swiftsure bridge! As mentioned on the previous post, indeed we changed the material from both tactical and the rails on the back section to a reddish marble. Can't say it would've been my choice, but if we've seen wood being used in starships, why not marble as well? I guess being a non-organic material it would be even easier to replicate.
My concern about marble is a health & safety one. We all know the propensity of Starfleet consoles to explode under duress. Do we really want to be adding actual rocks in with the plastic ones? :p

I kid, I kid. She's a beauty, nice work as usual. :techman:
 
@cardinal biggles: I mean, they're all filled with rocks anyway, this is just removing one layer of debris!

@valkyrie013: The crew uses all that empty space to place big bean bag sofas on movie nights.

More work on the Emmett Till. I've designed the pattern I'll be using for the LCARS screens. I've kept the smaller panels below, but expanded them into the frame somewhat. The new horizontal space between the top and bottom sections will be used by the red alert lights.
I've replicated this look on the MSD panel, and after some tests have decided to have a side cutaway graphic on it after all (but without the nacelles, as those take way too much horizontal space).

There's no class stated for the Emmett Till, so I'm planning to go with Perseverance-Class. I think it works on several levels, considering the similarly shaped Curiosity-Class from canon.

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I like the way the LCARS are turning out, they're a little more subdued than the blue/orange scheme you've used elsewhere without feeling faded. I'm still a little unsure about the erognomics of the side stations but I like how they blend together with subtle break lines.
 
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