360 price cuts on all hardware in September?? Hmmm...
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I also forgot that this new feature of being able to install you games onto the HD will also cut down dramatically on the heat generated by the DVD drive when its active, another little bonus of having a bigger HD.
And too be quite honest i think there are two reason's that this new installing games to the HD is being made available, firstly MS might just be foreseeing some up and coming 360 games coming on 2 discs or more, and they just might be laying the ground work for some future 360 games that might require a HD as mandatory, that's just my personal theory on it but with rumors that Forza 3 might be on 2 or 3 discs, it might just be more than possible....and the second reason is simply to cut down on heat producing components inside the 360, and the DVD drive not spinning and producing heat would be a advantage to those temps inside the box.
Just my personal theory on it...
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^^I agree with you 100%.....Only a few days ago i got 2 red lights and a E74 error which MS informed me would cost £70 to fix....one more red light and i could have got it fixed for free....
First of all, they did just drop the price of the 360 by $50 a couple of months ago to help counter MGS4.
Secondly, why should they have dropped the price of the 360 to $200 a "long time ago" when it's only been recently that the PS3 has outsold it? I don't count the WiiPaperWeight in this equation, it's in it's own little universe.
No, They dropped the price on the 20gb system because they are making room for the 60 gb system.
MGS4 had nothing to do with the price drop.
All other system prices have remained the same.
It is being speculated that the Arcade my be also discontinued.
http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/08/03/proof-of-xbox-360-arcade-price-drop-to-199-being-discontinued/
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As many of you probably know here on Gamer Blorge we strive to take it one step further by bringing you our analysis and take on the news instead of regurgitating the same stuff that’s been spat out on hundreds of other sites.
I have to say if this price drop is indeed true, then my gut and 25 years of video game industry experience is telling me Microsoft is planning to scrap the Xbox 360 Arcade model. Let’s take a look at the evidence here and see if it all makes sense.
1) At E3 Microsoft unveiled Neflix partnership, where users can download and stream movies. Since the Arcade model does not have a hard drive you cannot store movies and watch them.
2) Developers for games such as: Assassin’s Creed, Project Gotham Racing, Unreal Tournament, Rage and others, have openly rebuked the lack of hard drive across all of the Xbox 360 models causing the missed opportunity to use the hard drive for games that may need it.
3) If it does indeed cost around $323 to manufacture an Xbox 360, pricing the Arcade sub $200 would put them deep into the red again. Why would Microsoft do that, does Microsoft feel intimidated by the PS3 or Wii? I seriously doubt that at this time."
Pretty solid reasoning.
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Scraping the Arcade version and having a update that allows you to install whole games on the HD tells me we are going to see 360 games requiring a HD as mandatory sooner than later......assuming they do indeed scrap the arcade version.
It will be interesting too see if this actually happens.
It will be interesting too see if this actually happens.
Dropping the tard pack doesn't mean mandatory installs are coming. It just means that somebody at Microsoft grew a conscience and decided to stop ripping off people with a HDD-less unit with a nearly worthless memory card. Wait, who am I kidding...MS didn't grow a conscience. The tard pack probably just wasn't any cheaper for them to produce now than a unit with a HDD, however small it may be.
As for people who bought the Core/Arcade pack, that's their own damn fault for not doing the research and realizing that (before the actual Arcade pack was released which helped a little) a Core plus the required memory card was damn near the same price as the Premium pack.
Well i for one believe that MS have a game plan concerning the whole installing games to the HD.......i don't believe for a moment its anything other than the ground work for some 360 games at some point being released on 2/3 discs....don't quote me on it, but i think MS have been listening to game Devs who have been complaining about the DVD9 being too small for some time now and MS have come up with the stop gap of install games discs to the HD, that would certainly solve games being spread out on two plus discs....and that would explain why they might be ditching the arcade pack, no HD no installing games with multiple discs.
But hey that's only my opinion, but only time will tell.
But hey that's only my opinion, but only time will tell.
Looks like Circuit City will be giving a $30 gift card with purchase of any 360 system.
Weekly ad dated 8-10 to 8-16
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192560
Weekly ad dated 8-10 to 8-16
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192560
Well i for one believe that MS have a game plan concerning the whole installing games to the HD.......i don't believe for a moment its anything other than the ground work for some 360 games at some point being released on 2/3 discs....don't quote me on it, but i think MS have been listening to game Devs who have been complaining about the DVD9 being too small for some time now and MS have come up with the stop gap of install games discs to the HD, that would certainly solve games being spread out on two plus discs....and that would explain why they might be ditching the arcade pack, no HD no installing games with multiple discs.
But hey that's only my opinion, but only time will tell.
You have Carmack saying that RAGE has to ship with only 2 DVDs on the 360 because MS charges an additional royalty fee for each disc you use. Notice how the only multidisc games that are on the 360 are the two Mistwalker RPGs.
So, it looks like not many people are rushing to break that limit. Mandatory installs would help, since they could just compress the data ala PC games, but that's probably not going to happen.
On an unrelated note, I'm pretty sure that the HDDs on 360s, like the PS3s, are 5400 RPM. The PS3 actually overheats if you use a 7200 and the performance increase is negligable if not non-existant.
I just checked and the stupid 120GB drive here is still 200 bucks. The 60GB and that announced 120GB price drop better happen soon, or it might actually be cheaper to just buy a new 360. Ugh.
Announcement at Leipzig confirmed. You heard it here first!
Seriously though, I might just mosey out and pick one up since I'm getting tired of borrowing other people's consoles... and Fallout 3 is out (relatively) soon. All I'm wondering, since I'm a cheap-ass and everything, is a) how many games require the HD for caching purposes, and B) if Microsoft's HD prices are still exorbitant to the point where picking up an Arcade and a drive attachment still equals or exceeds the cost of the next highest model.
Seriously though, I might just mosey out and pick one up since I'm getting tired of borrowing other people's consoles... and Fallout 3 is out (relatively) soon. All I'm wondering, since I'm a cheap-ass and everything, is a) how many games require the HD for caching purposes, and B) if Microsoft's HD prices are still exorbitant to the point where picking up an Arcade and a drive attachment still equals or exceeds the cost of the next highest model.
How much does PKerr get paid for continuously pitching Xbox 360 on here?
He's been at it for a couple of years, so the money can't be that bad. He'll be up for the gold watch soon.
Well the saving to HD is coming in the next Update (hopefully soon).
I thinking I'm gonna pick up a 60gb system at the tail end of Circuit City's sale next week to score the $30.00 gift card.
Then when they (hopefully) drop the price on Sept 7th I'll go back and pick up the difference with their 30 day price matching. That should take about $80.00 off the current price.