285 nm UV-C Homemade Covid-19 Sanitizer

Asbo Zaprudder · Feb 28, 2021

It's social distancing, mask wearing, hand hygiene and so on that's also driving down flu rates not competition between viruses.

I had the Oxford-AZ modified adenovirus-based vaccine a few weeks ago and I hope to get the second injection in a couple of months time. I wear a mask in public, not that I go out that much.

I'm not waiting for a bespoke Trump UV-C butt plug with optional intravenous shots of injected bleach.

publiusr · Feb 28, 2021

But those help equalize the pressure on airline flights!

Non Sync · Feb 28, 2021

Dryson said:
Regardless, since the only known cure for SARS-CoV-2 is inactivating it with UV-C light, my only suggestion is get with the program and upgrade your plastic respirators or other fancy looking face plug with 280nm UV-C LED's.

UV-C is not a cure for SARS-CoV-2. It is one way to kill the virus prior to it entering the body and then infecting it.

We do know how COVID-19 has impacted the flu. Per the CDC website, FluSurv-NET have reported a current cumulative hospitalization rate of 0.6 per 100,000 population. In 2011-12, a low severity season, the rate was 2.2 times higher at this time in the season. The number of influenza positives reported by public health labs remains unusually low.

Mask wearing, physical distancing, and more people have received the flu vaccine.

Asbo Zaprudder · Feb 28, 2021

Alcohol and detergents also do a number on the coronavirus as they disrupt its phospholipid bilayer membrane and expose the viral RNA and its protein coating to the environment where it soon degrades. This is also not a cure, of course.

Dryson · Mar 1, 2021

The Flu or Influenza Virus and Coronavirus are not the same thing.

The Covid-19 pandemic is exponential. Its not an Influenza virus, its a Coronavirus.
COVID-19 and the flu have several differences. COVID-19 and the flu are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, while influenza is caused by influenza A and B viruses.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/.../coronavirus.../art-20490339

UV-C is not a cure for SARS-CoV-2. It is one way to kill the virus prior to it entering the body and then infecting it.

UV-C is the cure for SARS-CoV-2. You just said so yourself. Inactivating the virus before the virus enters your body sure sounds like a cure instead of putting the inactive virus into your body and hoping your body makes anti-bodies against it.

Can UVC lamps inactivate COVID-19?
UVC radiation has been shown to destroy the outer protein coating of the SARS-Coronavirus, which is a different virus from the current SARS-CoV-2 virus. The destruction ultimately leads to inactivation of the virus.

Unfortunately, ultraviolet A is the major ultraviolet component of sunlight reaching the ground.8 Ultraviolet B radiation can also have a small germicidal effect,7 but only a small portion of it reaches the Earth's surface as most is absorbed by the atmosphere.8 Ultraviolet radiation that is totally absorbed by the ozone layer is accepted as having the optimum germicidal wavelength—ie, ultraviolet C radiation.8 Unifying all these principles, it is clear that sunlight reaching the ground lacks germicidal ultraviolet C radiation.7, 8 Studies show that UVGI methods can be used effectively to eliminate viruses—eg, in health-care facilities, schools, indoors, etc—by using special ultraviolet radiation systems (ultraviolet C lamps, chambers). Also, it is known that the ultraviolet absorption peak of RNA viruses is around 250 nm wavelength.7 Therefore, the germicidal effectiveness of ultraviolet C radiation is limited to such applications and sunlight is not an alternative. However, some studies based on SARS-CoV, have shown that at least 60°C (which the earth does not reach to this temperature) and a minimum of 90 min are required to inactivate SARS-CoV-2.9

60 degrees Celsius translates to 140 degrees Fahrenheit, which the Earth will never reach. Therefore there is no chance of the Sunlight inactivating SARS-CoV-2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7212978/

I received the rest of the parts for my UV-C mask today. The only problem is that since the UV-C cannot be seen by human eyes, its rather difficult to determine if the LEDS are on or off or working at all.

When you see all of those anti-viral lamps and lights being sold that say they inactivate the virus and there is light showing, those are fake, as you won't be able to see the UV-C light.

Found the perfect test.

The weekly CDC flu surveillance report shows that more than 650,000 specimens have been tested for the flu this season and only 1,499 have come back positive for a positivity rate of 0.2%. That’s the lowest activity for a season in 25 years, according to a CDC spokesperson’s email.

I did some checking and the reports from the CDC for 1995 remained the same as expected.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss4903a2.htm

Asbo Zaprudder · Mar 2, 2021

I don't think anyone here is confusing the two types of virus. That's a strawman.

Dryson · Mar 3, 2021

I have often times heard people confuse them on T.V. That because the symptoms for SARS-CoV-2 and Flu are nearly the same then we'll just call it a Flu and treat like a Flu.

Next time I need to change my oil in my truck, I use a chicken to take the oil filter off, because a regular oil filter wrench and a chicken are about the same.

Here is what a real 280nm UV-C LED board looks like.

The LEDS are the two small squares inside of the -/+ terminals. On this board you can have up to three LEDS.
Because the UV-C light cannot be seen by human eyes, I'm gonna have to put a dimmable LED, like one of the ones in the link below, into the board by running the legs of the LED into the -/+ terminal and then Bondic or super glue the light so that it sticks just up out of the mask housing. The LED would serve two purposes, one to let me know the UV-C LED's were on and to warn others that UV-C LEDs were being used inside of the mask.

https://www.newark.com/lumex/ssl-lx2573srd/led-red-5mm-x-2mm-80mcd-660nm/dp/09J9507

From Cleveland Clinci

How does a virus mutate?
While the idea of a virus mutating might sound scary, it’s actually quite normal. Viruses mutate constantly. This is especially true of viruses that contain RNA as their genetic material, such as coronaviruses and influenza viruses.

All viruses are made up of a bundle of genetic material (either DNA or RNA) that’s covered by a protective coating of proteins. Once a virus gets into your body – usually through your mouth or nose – it latches onto one of your cells. The virus’s DNA or RNA then enters your cell, where it can make copies of itself that go off and infect other cells. If the virus can copy itself and hijack enough of your cells without being wiped out by your immune system, that’s how you get sick.

Every now and then, an error occurs during the virus’s copying process. That’s a mutation.

If a certain pill can inactivate mutations from taking place, would SARS-CoV-2 still mutate?

Addition 3.11.2021

I connected a small red LED to the UVC board connection posts and then connected a 3.5 v battery to the LED leads.

The LED turns off and on when I use the coin battery but does not work when I connect the -/+ of the BuckPuck to the LED leads.

The BuckPuck generates 13.5 volts and should therefore light the LED up.

Any explanations to why the BuckPuck isn't lighting the LED up?

Please no troll comments from those who are not part of Trek BBS and are mimicking board members.

Dryson · May 4, 2021

I think the Benzine inhale their atmosphere through a special device.

I was reading that carbon dioxide inactivates viruses very rapidly.

In order to inactivate the virus in India, a means of inhaling small amounts of carbon dioxide directly into the lungs of a person without injuring the person could stop SARS-CoV-2 in its tracts before it becomes full blown Covid-19.

Carbon Dioxide might be sprayed very heavily in regions of greatest infection where respirators allow small amounts of carbon dioxide into the lungs to inactivate the virus as well.

Lots of trees and plants that consume carbon dioxide very rapidly would also need to be planted and kept in the homes of people in India to filter the air of excess carbon dioxide.

https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs...ties/transport_storage_specimens_isolates/en/

Although welding fumes are very toxic, if people are exposed to the same volume of carbon dioxide that welders inhale every hour without the associated toxic metal fumes, the carbon dioxide could inactivate the virus without causing to much harm to the person.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/nioshtic-2/20039615.html

Santaman · May 4, 2021

Eh.. you are aware that what we breathe out is CO2? And that you will die if concentrations of the stuff gets too high, Concentrations of 7% to 10% (70,000 to 100,000 ppm) may cause suffocation, even in the presence of sufficient oxygen.
So yeah, you might deactivate a virus but you sure as well will deactivate a LOT of people.. permanently..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

Gingerbread Demon · May 5, 2021

I'm glad someone pointed that out.

Dryson · May 7, 2021

Santaman said:
Eh.. you are aware that what we breathe out is CO2? And that you will die if concentrations of the stuff gets too high, Concentrations of 7% to 10% (70,000 to 100,000 ppm) may cause suffocation, even in the presence of sufficient oxygen.
So yeah, you might deactivate a virus but you sure as well will deactivate a LOT of people.. permanently..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

i am very aware of the dangers of excessive carbon dioxide inhalation. But are you aware that welders breathe in metal carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide that is mixed with atom sized molten pieces of metal that have been vaporized, due to the welding process?

Although welding fumes are very toxic, if people are exposed to the same volume of carbon dioxide that welders inhale every hour without the associated toxic metal fumes, the carbon dioxide could inactivate the virus without causing to much harm to the person.

If Carbon Dioxide, in small concentrated doses that do not cause suffocation are inhaled, then perhaps SARS-CoV-2 viruses in the asymptomatic persons lungs or body could be rendered inactive.

When a person is treated with Carbon Dioxide they would immediately be given Oxygen to clear the Carbon Dioxide out of their lungs.

Something has to be done, haven't you seen the problem in India and Nepal? Otherwise the rest of the world is going to end be just like Nepal and India.

Non Sync · May 7, 2021

Dryson said:
i am very aware of the dangers of excessive carbon dioxide inhalation. But are you aware that welders breathe in metal carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide that is mixed with atom sized molten pieces of metal that have been vaporized, due to the welding process?

Although welding fumes are very toxic, if people are exposed to the same volume of carbon dioxide that welders inhale every hour without the associated toxic metal fumes, the carbon dioxide could inactivate the virus without causing to much harm to the person.

If Carbon Dioxide, in small concentrated doses that do not cause suffocation are inhaled, then perhaps SARS-CoV-2 viruses in the asymptomatic persons lungs or body could be rendered inactive.

When a person is treated with Carbon Dioxide they would immediately be given Oxygen to clear the Carbon Dioxide out of their lungs.

Something has to be done, haven't you seen the problem in India and Nepal? Otherwise the rest of the world is going to end be just like Nepal and India.

I'm curious as to your sources of information. What literature states that carbon dioxide could inactivate the virus without causing too much harm to the person? A principle false argument against masks was the buildup of carbon dioxide in the lungs.

CO2 levels of 30,000 ppm or 3% of air doubles the breathing rate, 50,000 ppm or 5% has the person breathing at four times normal and is the threshold of toxicity, and about 20,000 ppm or >5% is toxic, causes unconsciousness and death. All of these durations are in minutes.

Dryson · May 8, 2021

Non Sync said:
I'm curious as to your sources of information. What literature states that carbon dioxide could inactivate the virus without causing too much harm to the person? A principle false argument against masks was the buildup of carbon dioxide in the lungs.

CO2 levels of 30,000 ppm or 3% of air doubles the breathing rate, 50,000 ppm or 5% has the person breathing at four times normal and is the threshold of toxicity, and about 20,000 ppm or >5% is toxic, causes unconsciousness and death. All of these durations are in minutes.

Did you read the entire thread?

Non Sync · May 8, 2021

Dryson said:
Did you read the entire thread?

Did you read the cited articles?

The WHO article noted that the carbon dioxide can rapidly inactivate influenza viruses and as such, specimens should not be transported in dry ice (solid carbon dioxide) to avoid destroying the specimens in the event of leak in the specimen container. It does not suggest that carbon dioxide is viable treatment in vivo for influenza.

The CDC link was an abstract to a National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health article for which the link to the publication was broken. The abstract says this about carbon dioxide: "When carbon dioxide is used for shielding, carbon monoxide can form and kill you."

Santaman · May 8, 2021

And also, where did you get the idea that welders have to breathe in any fumes and gasses, I've done metal fabrication and I have used acetylene torches, shielded metal arc welding, TIG and MIG/MAG welding and you know, we've got something called "fume extraction" which makes sure in combination with good ventilation that I never inhaled anything bad, also with inert gas like Argon used with TIG and MIG welding you bet yer arse that ventilation is good, Argon is an inert gas and it will displace oxygen and you know, will die if you can't breathe oxygen... :biggrin:

Gingerbread Demon · May 9, 2021

Santaman said:
And also, where did you get the idea that welders have to breathe in any fumes and gasses, I've done metal fabrication and I have used acetylene torches, shielded metal arc welding, TIG and MIG/MAG welding and you know, we've got something called "fume extraction" which makes sure in combination with good ventilation that I never inhaled anything bad, also with inert gas like Argon used with TIG and MIG welding you bet yer arse that ventilation is good, Argon is an inert gas and it will displace oxygen and you know, will die if you can't breathe oxygen...

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Where did he get the idea you breathe in Co2?

publiusr · May 9, 2021

Santaman said:
Eh.. you are aware that what we breathe out is CO2? And that you will die if concentrations of the stuff gets too high, Concentrations of 7% to 10% (70,000 to 100,000 ppm) may cause suffocation, even in the presence of sufficient oxygen.
So yeah, you might deactivate a virus but you sure as well will deactivate a LOT of people.. permanently..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

Here is the thing though...I’ve heard it said that the worst thing you can give a heart attack victim is pure oxygen.

It triggers vasoconstriction and makes things worse. You have to sneak a little CO2 in the mix...or so I’m told. There was an old documentary where the host breathed in his own exhalations and tried to write the alphabet before getting carted off as the credits rolled (he recovered).

Remember...life evolved to breathe CO2. Oxygen was a pollutant that did allow a more energetic form of life...but at a price. That’s why we have anti-oxidants. Oxygen is like alcohol to drunks. Cut them off and they might die from the DTs fast...But it gets them in the end.

We need it for immediate respiration...but it’s hell on the telomeres I gather. If we ever do have hyper sleep...you want to remove all the reactive oxygen..else free radicals...but flood the patient with oxygen all at once or face tissue death.

I’m thinking this requires any sleeper Khan to have to be effectively *vivisected* so as to have enough tubing access.

Santaman · May 9, 2021

You never give anyone pure oxygen in any way or shape, oxygen is toxic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity

285 nm UV-C Homemade Covid-19 Sanitizer

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