24th Century Federation Bridges

[Mojochi]

We were chatting about this & I thought I'd try it in it's own thread.

There was some debate about whether we were seeing the actual bridge of the Sutherland in TNG's Redemption 2 or some other section set up to act as bridge, as it was not yet done being refit.

So far I've been able to come up with Yamato, ENT-C, Jenolan, Stargazer, Hathaway, & I just noticed another one, the Brattain from Night Terrors. Then there's obviously Defiant & Voyager. Are there any other bridges we've seen?

I suppose we could include the Bozeman, even though its a 23rd century ship, that's now in the 24th, but it does appear there's still a lot of ships out there comprised of 23rd century designs, the aforementioned Brattain being one of them

 

[The Wormhole]

Loads more other bridges. Just off the top of my head, Saratoga (Emissary), Pasteur (All Good Things), Odyssey (The Jem'Hadar), two separate ships named Prometheus (Second Sight and Message in a Bottle), Equinox (Equinox), Valiant (Valiant), Sao Paulo (Dogs of War, What You Leave Behind).

 

[MacLeod]

Didn't we also see the bridges of the USS Lantree, USS Hathaway, USS Stargazer

 

[FormerLurker]

The Sutherland may have been using its Auxiliary Control room(Battle Bridge equivalent), due to not being able to fit a new bridge module on still-damaged fittings from when they fought the Borg. That's my theory that I just thought up.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

The thing about the Sutherland's "bridge" is that it does have a dedication plaque tucked away in a corner at the back. I can't remember seeing one on the E-D's battle bridge and having it placed in some other section of the ship for a temporary bridge just seems a little weird.

Admittedly, I do dislike the Sutherland bridge, they could've spent a little longer turning it into something nicer.

 

[The Wormhole]

Didn't we also see the bridges of the USS Lantree, USS Hathaway, USS Stargazer

I'll give you the Lantree, but the OP already mentioned the Hathaway and Stargazer.

The thing about the Sutherland's "bridge" is that it does have a dedication plaque tucked away in a corner at the back. I can't remember seeing one on the E-D's battle bridge and having it placed in some other section of the ship for a temporary bridge just seems a little weird.

Admittedly, I do dislike the Sutherland bridge, they could've spent a little longer turning it into something nicer.

Thing is, dedication plaques weren't always on the bridge on TNG. On the Tsiolkovsky it was just outside the bridge and on the Phoenix it was in Captain Maxwell's ready room.

I do agree what we saw on the Sutherland likely was its bridge. For comparison just look at the bridge of the Hood or Admiral Hanson's flagship. Or even if we go over to DS9, this was the Lakota's bridge.

 

[Mage]

Can we asume that all starships of the same class have the same bridge?

Because the Nebula class Prometheus has a completely different bridge then the Nebula class Sutherland, giving more credit to the idea that we saw a auxilary control room on the Sutherland.

 

[The Wormhole]

Can we asume that all starships of the same class have the same bridge?

Because the Nebula class Prometheus has a completely different bridge then the Nebula class Sutherland, giving more credit to the idea that we saw a auxilary control room on the Sutherland.

Although a lot of the time that is the case, usually to allow the production team to get away with re-using the same sets, there are exceptions. For example, the Galaxy class Odyssey has a much different bridge then the Enterprise D.

Also, an auxiliary control room seems to be missing on 24th century ships, as whenever the bridge is out of commission on the Enterprise D, Defiant, or Voyager the bridge crew sets up a command post in engineering. Actually, that is odd on the Enterprise D, since if the main bridge is out of commission you would think it would just make sense to transfer command to the battle bridge than go to engineering.

 

[Mage]

Can we asume that all starships of the same class have the same bridge?

Because the Nebula class Prometheus has a completely different bridge then the Nebula class Sutherland, giving more credit to the idea that we saw a auxilary control room on the Sutherland.

Although a lot of the time that is the case, usually to allow the production team to get away with re-using the same sets, there are exceptions. For example, the Galaxy class Odyssey has a much different bridge then the Enterprise D.

Also, an auxiliary control room seems to be missing on 24th century ships, as whenever the bridge is out of commission on the Enterprise D, Defiant, or Voyager the bridge crew sets up a command post in engineering. Actually, that is odd on the Enterprise D, since if the main bridge is out of commission you would think it would just make sense to transfer command to the battle bridge than go to engineering.

True enough. I only realised after my post we've seen different bridges on the same class of starship.

For Voyager and the Defiant I understand why they'd use the Engineering set, since they wouldn't have to build a whole new set that way. But as for the D.... I don't. Was the battle bridge a standing set? Or did they take it out of storage when they needed it? Perhaps it was to expensive to put together and take down again several times year? And leaving it standing when it wasn't used every episode took up to much space on the soundstages?

 

[The Wormhole]

Can we asume that all starships of the same class have the same bridge?

Because the Nebula class Prometheus has a completely different bridge then the Nebula class Sutherland, giving more credit to the idea that we saw a auxilary control room on the Sutherland.

Although a lot of the time that is the case, usually to allow the production team to get away with re-using the same sets, there are exceptions. For example, the Galaxy class Odyssey has a much different bridge then the Enterprise D.

Also, an auxiliary control room seems to be missing on 24th century ships, as whenever the bridge is out of commission on the Enterprise D, Defiant, or Voyager the bridge crew sets up a command post in engineering. Actually, that is odd on the Enterprise D, since if the main bridge is out of commission you would think it would just make sense to transfer command to the battle bridge than go to engineering.

True enough. I only realised after my post we've seen different bridges on the same class of starship.

For Voyager and the Defiant I understand why they'd use the Engineering set, since they wouldn't have to build a whole new set that way. But as for the D.... I don't. Was the battle bridge a standing set? Or did they take it out of storage when they needed it? Perhaps it was to expensive to put together and take down again several times year? And leaving it standing when it wasn't used every episode took up to much space on the soundstages?

The battle bridge was the same set as the Enterprise bridge for the first four movies which got reused for many other sets throughout TNG, such as Data's lad, the court room in The Measure of a Man and various other starship bridges. Still, the first time we saw the bridge crew take over engineering was the episode Brothers, from early season 4. The battle bridge was only just seen a few episodes earlier in TBOBW and so therefore should still have been available to use. So it really is odd they didn't.

 

[Mojochi]

I do agree what we saw on the Sutherland likely was its bridge. For comparison just look at the bridge of the Hood or Admiral Hanson's flagship. Or even if we go over to DS9, this was the Lakota's bridge.

Whoa. I hadn't even realized that was the Hood's bridge, what with a chair so close to the viewscreen, I just assumed it was a ready room or something

 

[The Wormhole]

^^I'm assuming it's the bridge, based on the presence of a large computer terminal. I would point out the set is rather roomy to be a ready room on a ship smaller then the Enterprise, but then Voyager was smaller than the Enterprise and had a much larger ready room.

 

[Timo]

What reasons would there be for a CO to contact the heroes from a location other than the Main or Battle Bridge?

- Battle damage. There are cases in TNG where our heroes are able to leave in time a bridge they mistake for compromised; it could happen for real, too.
- Keeping the communications secret from their own crew. Perhaps the skippers don't want to demoralize their officers by the facts of the matter?
- Doing more important things than commanding the ship. The skipper's special expertise might be needed for repairing the quantum torpedo launcher, say. Or there's a better way to analyze the vital sensor data than through the consoles of the Bridge.

Also, whenever it's an Admiral or a Commodore doing the contacting, it may well be that there's a Captain handling the flying of the ship while the higher-ranking officer does greater things.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[bryce]

There are a few people (like myself) who think that the bridge we saw on the Enterprise-C was some kind of Battle Bridge, and not the Main Bridge - and if you Google it, you can find a fan-made alternate Ambassador Class Main Bridge, which looks like a mesh of the Enterprise-B Bridge and the Galaxy Class Bridge from "Generations".

EDITED TO ADD: Actually, I found a pic...(but I can't figure out how to resize it...)

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

A thoght has just struck me about the Sutherland's bridge. Since it's pretty much understood that the modules can be removed and replaced, maybe the one we saw in "Redemption" was just a temporary one, fitted to cover essential ship functions when she was launched ahead of schedule?

 

[Jedman67]

There are a few people (like myself) who think that the bridge we saw on the Enterprise-C was some kind of Battle Bridge, and not the Main Bridge - and if you Google it, you can find a fan-made alternate Ambassador Class Main Bridge, which looks like a mesh of the Enterprise-B Bridge and the Galaxy Class Bridge from "Generations".

EDITED TO ADD: Actually, I found a pic...(but I can't figure out how to resize it...)
http://i58.tinypic.com/289j7nk.jpg

Image credits: SeanR; www.Webvolutionary.com

Its an old Truespace model

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

There are a few people (like myself) who think that the bridge we saw on the Enterprise-C was some kind of Battle Bridge, and not the Main Bridge - and if you Google it, you can find a fan-made alternate Ambassador Class Main Bridge, which looks like a mesh of the Enterprise-B Bridge and the Galaxy Class Bridge from "Generations".

EDITED TO ADD: Actually, I found a pic...(but I can't figure out how to resize it...)

I LIKE that one. It's much more fitting for an Enterprise than what we actually saw in the episode.

@BrySinclair: Agreed on the Sutherland. That bridge definitely looked like some jury-rigged thing that was thrown together at the last minute.

 

[FormerLurker]

That needs a captain's chair.

 

[The Wormhole]

^^I was more thinking it would be nice if we also had an image showing the aft of the bridge as well.

 

[Jedman67]

Here's another one

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