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24 - Day 8: 4:00AM - 5:00AM: Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episode:

  • Excellent

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Average

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Bad

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Terrible

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
This was the first episode I've enjoyed in a long, long time. Having Jack spend most of the hour locked in a fire-fight was a nice refreshing way to come back to the real-time formula. I'm sure they've done it before, but this is the first time in awhile I've actually thought it was done well.

Chloe was great as usual, and her standing up to Hastings was even better. Likewise, Hastings' finally becomes a likeable guy when *he* stands up for Chloe. Well done.

Loved seeing Renee again, especially with how she saved the day for Jack and Cole. Very cool.

The Dana thing ... ugh. I was tolerating the lame Kevin story plot and was glad it was all over, and while I'd like to think the writers have some kind of larger endgame in mind and have planned ahead the way some other shows do, history has proven to me time and again that the staff on 24 doesn't seem to do that very often, or if they do, they don't seem to do it very well. Still, there's at least what, eleven episodes left? Maybe there's some revelatory plot point that will make all this make sense ... but for now, I'm gonna have to go with the mob and just say that those last two minutes were pretty unbelievably dumb. Reminded me quite a bit of the end of "Zero Hour" - the third season finale of Enterprise. Just way out of left field, and not in a good way.

Luckily, Katee Sackoff is a great actress, so hopefully it will give her something interesting to do for the remainder of the season, but we're definitely heading down a heavily traveled road with the mole-inside-CTU schtick. Not my favorite plot point to be sure. :(
 
Jack / Cole firefight - Written by Coto

CTU / Cloe remodulating the phase couplers to be in sync with the subnet - Written by Braga
 
The terrorist have been shown to be three times smarter than CTU this season. No surprise, as literally everyone is smarter than CTU. Still though, how the hell did Redneck DiCaprio find Dana while CTU didn't have a clue about her past? Like Prady said, the most high-tech the Redneck Twins ever got was using a crowbar.

I'll tell you one thing, if the Chief of Staff still wants someone's head, Hastings should give him Cole. By covering for Dana, Cole shares responsibility for whatever damage she causes from here on in. It makes me wonder now if Dana even told him the part about Evil Daniel Faraday beating the cop with a baseball bat. That would make Cole's decision to cover her crimes even worse.

Since we've learned this season that the Arkansas Parole Board wields incrediable power, I think we'll only have to wait five minutes next episode for someone to come looking for Prady.

Also forgot to add Tarin saying "He's Jack Bauer. He's one of their best agents." I guess Tarin decided to say "one of their best agents" because saying "the greatest, most unstoppable agent of all-time" would be demoralizing to his partner.
 
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Also forgot to add Tarin saying "He's Jack Bauer. He's one of their best agents." I guess Tarin decided to say "one of their best agents" because saying "the greatest, most unstoppable agent of all-time" would be demoralizing to his partner.

"Oh god, that's Jack Bauer! WE SURRENDER!!!1!"

The again they did catch him on an off hour, where he couldn't make hit guys standing still with his assault rifle w/ holographic sights, let alone pull off his typical pistol powered sniper shots! Jack's usually not even that helpless when he's tied up in a chair getting beaten to within an inch of his life!
 
Yeah, Jack (hell, everyone!) couldn't hit the broad side of a barn during this episode. And then Agent Red shows up and dispatches all the bad guys with a sidearm?
 
I'll cede to your knowledge of firearms, since I've only ever fired sidearms (and one revolutionary war era musket, but that's a bit out of date ;)). Still, it seems like 4 rifles each with a sight and 30 minutes worth of ammo would result in someone dying.
 
I caught this one on Hulu today after skipping the last month or so. I gather from reading this awesome thread that I haven't really missed that much :lol:. I wonder if the 24 writers have ever considered revealing who the Mole® is in the first episode in a season, lending some actual tension to his/her scenes for the rest of the season. This "shock value" stuff lost its credibility when Nina was revealed to be the Bad Guy way back in the season 1 finale. It barely made sense then, and 8 years later it's waaaaaaaaaaaay stupider. If they really do go on to make a movie, I Sincerely Hope That This Is The Last Time I Find Myself Here ;). That the writers have needed a huge jumpstart has been evident for years, but this season really kicks that feeling into overdrive.
 
I caught this one on Hulu today after skipping the last month or so. I gather from reading this awesome thread that I haven't really missed that much :lol:.

Heh, I'm enjoying reading the reactions here too. I think I'm going to continue to read the weekly 24 threads just to see if there are more ahem...interesting reactions to new :wtf: moments the writers pull out of their nether regions. I especially liked tomalok301's reaction before he censored himself--it pretty much captured all of my views on the matter too.
 
I'd really love to see what kind of plot flow-chart the writers use on 24 because damn this season it must look hilarious to see them try to connect things.

You honestly think they use a flowchart? I'm fully convinced they're just making everything up as they go along to provide the most shock value even if it makes no sense at all.
If this really is the last season of 24, my prediction is the last big reveal will will be Terry, still alive, with Jack's 15 (or whatever) year-old son.
It'd be the dumbest thing ever, of course, but is no less plausible than Tony's return from the dead.
 
If this really is the last season of 24, my prediction is the last big reveal will will be Terry, still alive, with Jack's 15 (or whatever) year-old son.
It'd be the dumbest thing ever, of course, but is no less plausible than Tony's return from the dead.
Not only alive, but the string-puller behind every plot in every season.
 
I for one liked the Dana reveal as kick-ass terrorist. Who'd suspect someone who faked their identity to be a mole?! Finally she's in true Starbuck mode. I'd actually been hating every second of having her on screen so far, but now here's someone I can love to hate. Also, the way she played the scenes with redneck boyfriend salvages the twist for me, somewhat. She obviously was physically abused by this guy, has traumas, battered woman syndrome, whatever, and found herself powerless to stand up to him, in particular. When he died, she even seemed to still have feeling for him, in some messed up way. Considering all this, I felt bad hating her up to this point. Finally, I'm vindicated. Boy did she play our man Cole.
 
I caught this one on Hulu today after skipping the last month or so. I gather from reading this awesome thread that I haven't really missed that much :lol:.

Heh, I'm enjoying reading the reactions here too. I think I'm going to continue to read the weekly 24 threads just to see if there are more ahem...interesting reactions to new :wtf: moments the writers pull out of their nether regions. I especially liked tomalok301's reaction before he censored himself--it pretty much captured all of my views on the matter too.

I still say "Fuck You" to the writers, but I really felt I couldn't live with myself if I actually kept it. It's one of those put it on paper and think, "How would I feel a few hours from now if I read this" type moments. I actually still feel that way to a small extent.

It's just that the major problem I had was for 58 minutes, it was a terrific episode. It seemed like the momentum from the EMP was kept at a high level and this season was finally making a turnaround. Yeah there are a few issues, such as Renee and getting over the tramatic experience in only a few hours, but this is 24 and you look past those kind of "plot holes" just because of the sheer awesomeness of it. Then we get the whole Dana is the Mole thing and someone else said, and I agree with it, that it would have been much better if she had just gone over the edge. The Phone call to Samir was just one of those :rolleyes: moments because that's the number 1 cliche in the book. Thank you for coming up with a fine episode only to have it come crashing down in the final 30 seconds.
 
This was posted on TWOP and I had to post it here...

What I would have loved: If Tarin had looked through the binoculars and said, "Oh no! It's international arms dealer Ernst Meier!"
 
Wow. Never in a million years did I think Starbuck would be a traitor. They legitimately surprised me for the first time since like Season Five. I truly did not see that coming. I actually shouted out NO WAY! That was a brilliant misdirect giving her that ridiculous crap storyline so you think OK that's the point of her character but it was all a distraction!!!
 
When they announced 24 was cancelled I was as pissed off as hell, and still was for most of this episode UNTIL THEY MADE DANA A MOLE!

That is the singlest most lazy peice of last minute re-writing I have seen in 8 years of 24, the only thing that would have made less sence would be if Jack was the mole.

Hell why not make Cole a mole, his name rhymes with it anyway.

Maybe everyone but Jack is a mole, and thats why they never catch the bad guys till the last episode, because everyone in CTU is helping them out.
 
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