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24 - Day 8: 4:00AM - 5:00AM: Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episode:

  • Excellent

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Average

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Bad

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Terrible

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
The strangling was cool but being a mole still doesn't adequtely explain how she got into CTU in the first place. But then again, the terrorists have been shown to be able to do absolutely everything so I guess planting a mole into incompetant CTU shouldn't be so hard. It's been done literally thousands of times.
 
Just thought of something...if Dana was a mole all along, then who was that woman with the kid she called during the first episode? Another terrorist associate?
 
I haven't read this 6 page thread yet, but I was perfectly willing to give this episode an above average rating. Enjoyable episode with crazy Chloe's antics and Hastings continuing his ascent into the likable, Renee brought back into the fold, and Jack and Cole in a good, tense action scene (something that's been sorely lacking all season long). Then the last 3 minutes happened, which dropped it to a terrible rating.

I don't think I've been this pissed at a TV show for pulling stupid shit out of its ass since the Enterprise series finale. I haven't posted in that other thread here about watching TV shows out of obligation, but I no longer consider myself obligated to watch 24 if ANOTHER DAMN CTU MOLE that makes zero sense is what they think we want to see.
 
Excellent :bolian::bolian::techman::techman:

Well, the EMP didn't take out the emergency lighting. That's something.

I beleive EMP's only take out active electrical equipment, emergency lighting would turn on until main power was off or out.

Yes, Ms. Hassan, he is a Taranist.
Groooaan!!:guffaw:




If they were going to go with her being a mole, why all the shit for the last 13 episodes with Redneck DiCaprio!

I guess so we'd get lost in the stupidity of that storyline and not suspect her.

Well I guess that threw a lot of us,:shrug: what a deversion.

Could've been better. Still didn't see the Starbuck angle coming though.

I liked it!
and I honestly did not see the Starbuck angle either.
 
Ok, I'm editing this post mainly because I'm a bit calmer now and I'm not the type of person to use the f-word all thoughout my posts.

Seriously, what were the writers thinking. We get a great episode, renee coming back, Chloe with a lot to do and reminding me of Rambo Chloe from, what, Season 4? Renee kills two people awesomely, Jack and Cole have some great tense scenes, and the stuff at CTU was great. Then we get to the end and it's really almost like the writers look at this series and say, "Hey, we haven't had the number one cliche in the book this season. Now's a good time to use it." It just really sucks and makes me wonder why I still watch this show. I'll probably watch it next week, but God why must they do that. Why have an awesome episode only to ruin it in about 30 seconds:

First 58 minutes of the episode: Excellent
Last 2: Atrocious.

That still averages out to Bad.
 
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I gave it a terrible.

People are complaining about the Starbuck mole plot, and with good reason... but the redshirts during the turtle stratagem were almost as bad. Seriously, a fucking traffic cop wouldn't be anywhere near that pathetic in a firefight, let alone fucking counter terrorists!

Actually, fuck it, back to fucking Starbuck. Jesus man... you have one somewhat obvious plot hole here and there, for the most part I can forgive it. But WTF? Nothing from that plot makes any sense! If she's just a girl who did a little well intentioned identity fraud to escape her past, then the plot is just stupid, boring, and pointless. But if she's the mole it all just comes crashing down. Most obviously she could've used numerous opportunities to kill DiCaprio, which was obviously the best way to maintain her cover as opposed to trying to cater to the whims of that sociopath for... I don't even know how many episodes, it kind of felt like forever, but maybe it's just because the plot is so stupid.

And sweet jesus! "Now folks, I'm just a little country bumpkin.... I don't know so much about your electromanglepulse doodad or your nuke-u-lar who dunnit, but missy here isn't telling the truth!". My god! This guy should've had one scene for the entire season:

*Arkansas Parole Guy walks into CTU*
Someone from CTU: Who the hell are you, where are your credentials?
Arkansas Parole Guy: Well missy, I'm from the Arkansas Parole Board and I'm lookin' for a lill ol' con---
*he's cut off*
Someone from CTU: Sir, we have a situation, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
Arkansas Parole Guy; Bu---
*he's cut off again*
Someone from CTU: NOW!
*EMP goes off*
Someone from CTU: Security! He's going to gitmo!

Why the hell aren't I writing screenplays for a living?

*TERRIBLE!*
 
C'mon everybody isn't totally obvious. Starbuck was a sleeper agent Cylon. She wasn't activitated until the EMP. She actually thought she was a hick!
 
Wow I have to give the writers credit somehow they managed to make the whole Dana redneck idiot subplot EVEN FUCKING STUPIDER.

Why the hell would someone who's undercover at CTU for the terrorists waste her god damned time with these idiots from her past? and put herself out of contact with CTU and thus out of contact with her terrorists buddies in the position she infiltrated herself to be in?

God. WTF
 
I didn't see it coming but it seems so obvious and doesn't jive with the whole Redneck DiCaprio thing and it just seems way out of left field. Like they're trying to do something with her now to make her a more likable character (even as a villian). It just comes across as really lame.

^This. I already hate the character, so spending even MORE time with her was not good news. It really did feel lame---a huge stretch to make her seem more interesting. If she really was evil enough to be the mole and created a whole new identity, why not just kill Redneck DiCaprio right away? Why act like such a wimp with him and yet strangle the bounty hunter with your bare hands?

And with Chloe---when there's a EMP pulse wiping out CTU, why call Rene, who just hours ago, was having a complete nervous breakdown? Man, she sure recovered from it fast. She must be picking up Bauer-Recovery-Power. I was curious as to why she didn't also call her husband, who is also a super-computer wiz.

And, GOOD LORD. CTU has worse security than our local Marriott. :rolleyes:

This episode was just average for me.
 
Okay, what the hell? If Dana was a mole all along, why didn't she just call her terrorist friends and have them take care of the redneck back at her apartment? I mean, fuck, it makes less sense than the President's Chief of Staff who was willing to die with him in his car, but also needed to be alive later on to kidnap the President's daughter.

The stuff with Jack was kind of exciting, but goddamn were the two CTU guest-starring agents fucking stupid.

Average for 24. Don't even ask me how it is compared to something good.
 
I'd really love to see what kind of plot flow-chart the writers use on 24 because damn this season it must look hilarious to see them try to connect things.
 
It was her sister. Pretty sure she is both a mole, and a juvie redneck.
This.
I'm guessing the terrorists either somehow orchestrated her identity change several years back or they have something against her, like a kidnapped family member or something.

Kevin just came along at the exact wrong time threatening to blow her cover, so she couldn't just tell him to go to hell. She had to deal with it. Then the parole officer comes along (in NY, from Arkansas, in the middle of the night:eek:), so she has to deal with that too.

It does "explain" her actions a little more, but it's still got to be among the dumbest 24 subplots ever, and they've had several real stinkers.
 
It does "explain" her actions a little more, but it's still got to be among the dumbest 24 subplots ever, and they've had several real stinkers.

Maybe deep down the writers want to try and top Kim, the cougar and the crazed survivalist plot. Of course they never will.

Unless maybe you had Taran approach the east river make dolphin noises and a dolphin appeared to smuggle the nuclear rods into Manhattan.
 
I'd really love to see what kind of plot flow-chart the writers use on 24 because damn this season it must look hilarious to see them try to connect things.

You honestly think they use a flowchart? I'm fully convinced they're just making everything up as they go along to provide the most shock value even if it makes no sense at all.
 
Maybe deep down the writers want to try and top Kim, the cougar and the crazed survivalist plot. Of course they never will.

Unless maybe you had Taran approach the east river make dolphin noises and a dolphin appeared to smuggle the nuclear rods into Manhattan.

:guffaw::guffaw:

The really sad part is that I can almost see them doing something exactly like that.
 
Hell, at this point, I'd watch them do something like that. At least it would be unpredictable. :lol:
 
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