Agreed, Chloe turning on Jack is absolute bullshit.
24 - Day 8: 10:00AM - 11:00AM - Discussion and Spoilers
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The twists this season seems silly, I can agree (and I obviously have disagreed about many things with everyone else in the last few episodes), and I may not be the world greatest planner and writer, but were I writing out a show with the entire season of 24 episodes being a single day, I'd make an attempt to have things be a bit more coherent and less twisty all the time (seriously, the way the characters can pop in and drop out on the per episode biases seems odd to me for some reason), I mean...everything just seems to be several stories in one...I suppose in some ways, you almost have to do that, it still needs a story and plot lines, but some of these plot lines seem a bit odd to happen within a single day or a few hours.
As much as I like Katee Sachoff (and can seem to stand the character a bit more then others can), her character seems inconstant as hell. In the beginning of the season, she was afraid of a white trash (as others call him) ex-boyfriend, to weak to defend against her, then she's a spy secretly working for the Iranian baddies (or whoever they are), then shes a bad ass killer shooting her way out of places, then she's someone that can take any threat that Jack says and throw it back at him, and now shes all afraid again? We also find out shes working for the Russians? Seriously, couldn't she, with those connections, have had the white trash taken care of like, long ago? So, she's what an enemy agent under cover who is undercover of a secret past? or something?
And Jack turning on the president when an episode or two before he told people that were not her to fuck off, because he would only listen to her, wtf?
As much as I like Katee Sachoff (and can seem to stand the character a bit more then others can), her character seems inconstant as hell. In the beginning of the season, she was afraid of a white trash (as others call him) ex-boyfriend, to weak to defend against her, then she's a spy secretly working for the Iranian baddies (or whoever they are), then shes a bad ass killer shooting her way out of places, then she's someone that can take any threat that Jack says and throw it back at him, and now shes all afraid again? We also find out shes working for the Russians? Seriously, couldn't she, with those connections, have had the white trash taken care of like, long ago? So, she's what an enemy agent under cover who is undercover of a secret past? or something?
And Jack turning on the president when an episode or two before he told people that were not her to fuck off, because he would only listen to her, wtf?
The President's plotline is stupid beyond belief, even for a show that has had more than its share of stupid plotlines. She lacks even the most rudimentary political instinct. Her Veep had to tell her she was getting herself into impeachment territory? Yeesh!
I can see her being freaked out about the eeevil Blackwater guys, because they're on her level of professionalism and effectiveness, but I still want a good explanation why she was one tiny bit concerned about her goober ex-boyfriend and his crony. She should have had nothing but contempt for those amateurs.
I thought it was good. A (somewhat) logical (for 24) progression of the insanity of this season. Obviously, there's no way to reconcile Dana Walsh from the first half of the season with her character in the second half, but putting the first 12 episodes she was in out of my mind wasn't difficult since her storyline there was so putrid.
Jack is turning against the President because this has become personal, plain and simple. The same thing drove him against Logan in season five.
And, Temis, Ethan's her Secretary of State, not her Vice President. The VP (last seen in season seven) is a huge weasel.
Jack is turning against the President because this has become personal, plain and simple. The same thing drove him against Logan in season five.
And, Temis, Ethan's her Secretary of State, not her Vice President. The VP (last seen in season seven) is a huge weasel.
Oh okay, I missed a lot of eps earlier on. Didn't know who was Veep - probably missed that part.
Jack turned against the Prez because she is stupid and wrong and frankly needs to be impeached before she does any more damage. And you'd think Chloe would realize that if Jack is defying the Prez, something is terribly wrong and maybe Chloe should give more credence to Jack's story. How many times has she been through some situation where an authority figure was bad/stupid/corrupt/insane while Jack was on the side of the angels? You'd think she'd be quicker on the uptake.
What cracks me up is thinking about the turncoat aide and general who defied Taylor earlier on, who must be in Federal prison and meeting with their lawyers right about now. No doubt this whole nasty mess will come to light by the end of the season (in a few hours) and won't those two guys look smart?
They knew the Prez was an idiot before anyone else did! Hurray for them! They should get medals.
Jack turned against the Prez because she is stupid and wrong and frankly needs to be impeached before she does any more damage. And you'd think Chloe would realize that if Jack is defying the Prez, something is terribly wrong and maybe Chloe should give more credence to Jack's story. How many times has she been through some situation where an authority figure was bad/stupid/corrupt/insane while Jack was on the side of the angels? You'd think she'd be quicker on the uptake.
What cracks me up is thinking about the turncoat aide and general who defied Taylor earlier on, who must be in Federal prison and meeting with their lawyers right about now. No doubt this whole nasty mess will come to light by the end of the season (in a few hours) and won't those two guys look smart?
They knew the Prez was an idiot before anyone else did! Hurray for them! They should get medals.
They were nuts but they did save New York. 
If Taylor has to step down, the United States of 24 won't get a respite. Her Vice President was a moron. He was also said to have a drug problem.
If Taylor has to step down, the United States of 24 won't get a respite. Her Vice President was a moron. He was also said to have a drug problem.
Completely agreed. I use a different scale for 24 than my other favorite shows, since at this point it's basically a guilty pleasure. This was a good episode, and waaaay better than pretty much every ep they aired before the 2-hour extravaganza a few weeks back. The New Dana is one of the lamest things 24 has ever pulled, but it's so many light-years ahead of the Old Dana that at this point, I just don't care. It's the last season, so I'm willing to pretend that the last third will take us out on a (relatively) high note.
This season has been pretty much "Hey, that's kind of a neat premiere" to "Wait, this is AWFUL" (for 3 months) to "Finally, it's watchable again, even if it's insanely ridiculous." IMO, the show in the last few weeks is at least FUN to watch again, even if it's completely stupid. Stupid fun beats Stupid boring.
P.S. Honorable mention to Gregory Itzen, who nails every single one of his scenes. His S6 material was banal, but his role this year is reasonably interesting and meaty, even if Taylor's responses and overall characterization now make no sense.
So which is worse, bowing or hugging & kissing and then denying the evidence?
http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush_kisses_saudi_king.jpg
I get the need for international manners and diplomacy, but sheesh, get a room, you two.