You're presumably more free to develop plot and politics whereas with Last Starship (which I do like), you've very mucy got, whether for better or worse, a concrete beginning and end point.
You're presumably more free to develop plot and politics whereas with Last Starship (which I do like), you've very mucy got, whether for better or worse, a concrete beginning and end point.
I'm curious about Not-Legacy, but the fact that it's building off of the last no subtitle Star Trek series does dampen my enthusiasm a bit. And I'm a little surprised since I was thinking that Sisko being in it would make it inconsistent with what Starfleet Academy established about his fate, and so any other series would pretty much have to ignore it.
"In 2375, he confronted them at the Great Fire Caves. He was never seen again."
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Yeah, they said he never came back after the fight in the Fire Caves. Although there was a line from a Jake hologram, about how it felt his father's presence during important moments, so some people have taken that to mean he possibly appeared to Jake in some form.
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Which doesn't mean much in regards to your original point, that the comics as they are right now pretty much have to ignore that. Or try hard to retcon it if they can be bothered.
"Now that our missions are over I'd like to ask you all, my entire crew, if you could please never tell anyone for the rest of your lives that I was ever here..."
If it's good enough for Discovery...
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@Tosk and @JD , I know it feels like forever ago since Starfleet Academy aired, but that episode is still in the six-month spoiler window for another two months. As such, I've had to add some spoiler coding to the thread.
@Tosk , I know your second post wasn't from the episode directly, but people could infer the spoiler from it, so I have erred on the side of caution.
Therin's mention of the family tree is also from the episode, but it doesn't reveal any plot information, which is why it was left unaltered, in case anyone was wondering.
@Tosk , I know your second post wasn't from the episode directly, but people could infer the spoiler from it, so I have erred on the side of caution.
Therin's mention of the family tree is also from the episode, but it doesn't reveal any plot information, which is why it was left unaltered, in case anyone was wondering.
Kelly talks about this in one of the podcasts he went on, but I can't remember which.
That they believe the comic storyline synchs up with what was said in SFA.
Oops, sorry I figured it was old enough I didn't need to code it.
I know the announcement was discussed, but has anyone been reading Stargazers? It's cute, queer, and has a lot about food, which makes sense because the author also writes cookbooks.
The author also wrote "Love's First Bloom" in this year's celebrations.
Thus far it's not particularly trek-y other than set dressing, but it's interesting to get a civilian perspective on the station in a post-war DS9. I think it'll most be a coming of age story, and a little bit perhaps about what joining Starfleet may mean.
The author also wrote "Love's First Bloom" in this year's celebrations.
Thus far it's not particularly trek-y other than set dressing, but it's interesting to get a civilian perspective on the station in a post-war DS9. I think it'll most be a coming of age story, and a little bit perhaps about what joining Starfleet may mean.
I had not bothered looking, because early publicity had said that the Webtoons app was USA only?
It seems to have a web version after all.
Hopefully this is the right place to cross-post my impressions from the first two issues of the Lost Contact mini-series and the Celebrations one shot from over in the Starfleet Academy forum …
Finally received them in the mail and was able to sit down this weekend and dive into them at last:
The mini series is starting a bit slow and some of the characterizations don’t ring true for me at all, which I guess can be explained by the fact that the short was written well before the first season even aired. As @tenmei mentioned earlier here, especially Kelrec and Jay-Den feel way off in their characterization (and to the extent she’s even in there, so does Tarima). Not completely incompatible with the show, I guess, but still: The way Kelrec loses his cool on the Athena and Jay-Den is constantly at odds with Genesis for whatever reason on the planet just feel wrong.
What I do like is that they chose to focus the story on Genesis, which they haven’t done on the show. The plot feels thin and a bit jumbled though. It comes across overly simple while at the same time moving at a glacial pace. However, I did like the concept of them having to communicate visually, and I’m curious to see where the story will go with it in the coming issues.
The art is serviceable enough, but some design choices seem odd, like how characters repeatedly use old-style push buttons or a holographic device displaying data looks almost like a 21st century projector. Not to mention the inexplicable use of Discovery EV suits in the 31st century and the limited angles on the Athena.
I’m pleasantly surprised by the Celebrations short, though. All the stories are super cute and hit just the right notes for me. The truncated storylines seem perfect for some small slice-of-life-ish moments of some of Trek’s queer characters, and I think they managed to collect some nice variety in terms of tone and style. Both the Lower Decks and Starfleet Academy shorts very much feel like they depict moments that could very well have happened on those shows respectively. The others still feel true to the characters they are about, but I have a harder time imagining an episode of Picard actually depicting Seven and Raffi having a romantic adventure on the holodeck or one of the Kelvin movies taking the time to show how Sulu met his husband. Interestingly, though, those two are probably my favorites shorts in the collection. The Seven/Raffi story is very rewarding for old school Voyager fans, and the writer for the Sulu story got Kelvin-McCoy just right.
My favorite art, however, is the one from the Chapel story, which feels very loose and almost like fan art, and yet it neatly captures Jess Bush’s look and mannerisms (even though her story feels a bit forced, since they only ever paid lip service to her being bi on the show). What I find curious is that the cover art by artist Adelle Kincel depicts Adira and Gray, although they are not represented with a story inside the special, but omits Jay-Den and Kyle, which leads me to believe their story might have been a last minute addition when the cover was already done.
Has anyone read the 2024 Celebrations issue? Is it similar in quality?
Finally received them in the mail and was able to sit down this weekend and dive into them at last:
The mini series is starting a bit slow and some of the characterizations don’t ring true for me at all, which I guess can be explained by the fact that the short was written well before the first season even aired. As @tenmei mentioned earlier here, especially Kelrec and Jay-Den feel way off in their characterization (and to the extent she’s even in there, so does Tarima). Not completely incompatible with the show, I guess, but still: The way Kelrec loses his cool on the Athena and Jay-Den is constantly at odds with Genesis for whatever reason on the planet just feel wrong.
What I do like is that they chose to focus the story on Genesis, which they haven’t done on the show. The plot feels thin and a bit jumbled though. It comes across overly simple while at the same time moving at a glacial pace. However, I did like the concept of them having to communicate visually, and I’m curious to see where the story will go with it in the coming issues.
The art is serviceable enough, but some design choices seem odd, like how characters repeatedly use old-style push buttons or a holographic device displaying data looks almost like a 21st century projector. Not to mention the inexplicable use of Discovery EV suits in the 31st century and the limited angles on the Athena.
I’m pleasantly surprised by the Celebrations short, though. All the stories are super cute and hit just the right notes for me. The truncated storylines seem perfect for some small slice-of-life-ish moments of some of Trek’s queer characters, and I think they managed to collect some nice variety in terms of tone and style. Both the Lower Decks and Starfleet Academy shorts very much feel like they depict moments that could very well have happened on those shows respectively. The others still feel true to the characters they are about, but I have a harder time imagining an episode of Picard actually depicting Seven and Raffi having a romantic adventure on the holodeck or one of the Kelvin movies taking the time to show how Sulu met his husband. Interestingly, though, those two are probably my favorites shorts in the collection. The Seven/Raffi story is very rewarding for old school Voyager fans, and the writer for the Sulu story got Kelvin-McCoy just right.
My favorite art, however, is the one from the Chapel story, which feels very loose and almost like fan art, and yet it neatly captures Jess Bush’s look and mannerisms (even though her story feels a bit forced, since they only ever paid lip service to her being bi on the show). What I find curious is that the cover art by artist Adelle Kincel depicts Adira and Gray, although they are not represented with a story inside the special, but omits Jay-Den and Kyle, which leads me to believe their story might have been a last minute addition when the cover was already done.
Has anyone read the 2024 Celebrations issue? Is it similar in quality?
Celebrations 2026 is a vast improvement over Celebrations 2024, both in terms of story and art. Here's my review of the 2024 comic: